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I don't think we even need to use the word consciousness to poke some serious holes in materialism. For example, if scientists come up with a theory o...

Do you really have no idea what someone is talking about when they ask "are you conscious"? You're not able to grok that sentence? Nothing. Consciousn...

I think there's more to it than that. At time t to whatever, Bob and Frank report the same "speed" of consciousness. But if Frank accelerates enough, ...

Doesn't IIT entail that our consciousness should fluctuate with the amount of information integration going on? For example, sitting in a dark silent ...

Axioms can't be proven and I think there's a lot of relativism in our choice of axioms we follow. For instance, it's possible that there's a literal h...

I thought this was relevant: "To his credit, Tononi cheerfully accepts the panpsychist implication: yes, he says, it really does mean that thermostats...

I think there's a problem for IIT, though. If consciousness "flows at the speed it flows, neither faster nor slower", and Frank travels faster than Bo...

We are conscious of very little of what our brain is actually doing, and it's doing a lot of information processing moment by moment. Why does informa...

"Intrinsic existence Consciousness exists: each experience is actual—indeed, that my experience here and now exists (it is real) is the only fact I ca...

Yeah, but Newton didn't have a lot of red flags pop up right at the start. The theory he came up with almost perfectly mapped on to reality (except fo...

Then that would be consciousness=(some amount of) integrated information, and vice-versa. That sounds a little ad hoc, but maybe. But by taking a meas...

I skimmed over it, but this will be real quick. Are you claiming consciousness=integrated information? Because if so, then integrated information=cons...

I'm not asking questions about consciousness in a scientific way. Are you, Kenosha Kid, conscious??? That's not talking about consciousness is a "scie...

I like that better.

I meant no judgement. It just surprised me.

Every instance of information integration is an instance of consciousness?

Are you conscious? Is your significant(s) other conscious? To not draw this out, I'll answer for you: yes, and yes. Now, did we need a precise definit...

You listed two things that you wish you could change when you were 18, and then talked about gay rights. I personally don't care, and I'm not attackin...

Technology trumps gay rights?

This was one of the top comments in a consciousness debate that I was just watching: "Am I just in some weird internet bubble, or are tons of atheists...

You're arguing my point: you don't need to know _much_ about consciousness to be able to distinguish it perfectly well from non-consciousness. We don'...

Is it possible for computers to be conscious? If yes, how would you verify whether a specific computer is conscious or not? If computer consciousness ...

If there's no possible world where consciousness arises from rocks, then it is impossible for consciousness to arise from rocks. That is to say, no ma...

OK, but I think you're just pushing the Hard Problem to a different level: why does integrating information lead to conscious experience? How does tha...

For one, if I sit in a darkened silent room that's neither hot nor cold, I'm not any less conscious, which should be the case if my consciousness depe...

I agree. Are you still assuming that consciousness arises from neurons? "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of explaining why any physic...

How would you measure how much PHI a computer has? Does the number of transistors matter? Or how they're arranged? Or both?

Indeed...

If all your sense organs stopped working, you would still be conscious.

Physicalism is teetering like a house of cards. Consciousness is primary. The physical world has been relegated to a conjecture (though a very good on...

I think I get what you're trying to say here. Functionalism was what I figured Kenosha Kid would use to answer the questions I posed about "rock consc...

Do I know you from some other forum? Did we cross paths once and it ended badly? Anyway, suppose you built a machine that was functionally equivalent ...

I figured we would reach this point. I think this is where the materialist position collapses into complete absurdity. I know that's a person opinion,...

Those are safe assumptions. Do you doubt brains and/or consciousness exists? Assuming a working brain is required for consciousness is just that: an a...

Those are good points. Instead of consciousness from moving rocks around, what about simulated consciousness? If one believes that consciousness can b...

You just did by posting that, but so what. All we do here is waste time. What is your question you want me to answer?

Why doesn't the creation of new mental states violate entropy?

No, there was a group of computationalist materialists over at the International Skeptics Forum in its heyday who were completely invested in that com...

What was the question again? The one about walking and legs?

I'm encouraged that you think it's a fairy tale! I have encountered many materialists who agree wholeheartedly with the conclusion in that comic. Mayb...

Same question to you, 180. Do you believe it's possible to simulate a universe of conscious beings by moving rocks around? If not, where do you and th...

Let's explore this because this is important. Take a look at this comic: https://xkcd.com/505/ Do you believe it's possible to simulate a universe of ...

You're more certain that physical matter exists than of pretty much anything else? What do you base this high level of certainty on? Also, regarding c...

Do you believe the brain is a prerequisite for consciousness? If so, why do you think it's taking so long to come up with an explanation for how the b...

Fair point. I will amend my claim to "you don't get new/additional matter from mental states".

All of that is compatible with idealism. Science does NOT say that adrenaline is some non-conscious stuff. Science is mum on metaphysics.

Why should we assume physical states even exist? What evidence do you have for the existence of the non-conscious stuff these physical states are supp...

"Walking from legs" is not the same as "consciousness from non-conscious stuff".

I'm sure there are good utilitarian/consequentalist arguments for why ""Chinese people are inferior to Europeans"" should be censored here.