RogueAI

It's certainly intentional, but it's also behavioral. If zombies can't lie, then they're not behaviorally the same as us, which they're supposed to be...

Isn't lying a behavior*? Also, would p-zombieland even have the word "lie" in its language? If not, then their language would be a lot different than ...

Can a p-zombie lie?

So I'm supposed to think my p-zombie doppelganger will be able to do my job effectively and navigate the world without knowing anything and/or thinkin...

How can philosophy of mind be dead when Ai's are close to passing the Turing Test? The question of machine consciousness and other philo-of-mind topic...

But if we are asked if we have attribute x, and we don't have it or don't know what x is (e.g., telepathy), we would either say, "no" or "what are you...

I've had pleasant interactions with you, and I want to keep it that way, so agree to disagree and apologies if I got too snarky.

They're supposed to act the same as us: talking, fighting, warring, yelling out "Ouch!" when they smash their toe, crying watching Schindler's List, e...

It's not a gotcha game. It's exploring your preference for an Allied victory knowing they killed untold numbers of innocents. I suspect your reasoning...

So, behind the veil, you would prefer the Allies won even knowing they killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children in indiscrimi...

You're unable to prefer any other situation than the one you exist in? Suppose your kids died horribly in a fire. You're telling me it would be imposs...

Of course you can. Pretend you're behind a Rawlsian veil of ignorance and you're looking at two possible worlds you might find yourself in: one is a w...

That's the only reason you prefer the Allies win? Because of reasons of your own existence? Stopping Nazi Germany doesn't factor into your preferring ...

What would the history of p-zombie world be? Is there a coherent story that could be told where p-zombies evolved like we did and developed language, ...

"Can you imagine an A380 flying backward? Of course you can. Just imagine a large plane in the air, moving backward. Is such a scenario really conceiv...

OK, who do you prefer should have won WW2, the Allies or Axis?

Do you really not have a preference over who should have won WW2, the Allies or Japan and Nazi Germany? I find that hard to believe.

And yet Ohio of all places just codified abortion rights. Trump carried Ohio by ten points! Dobbs was clearly a setback, but paradoxically, it's makin...

Two teachers making $66k a year is a very good household income. You can live quite well on it. And that's only for 185 days a year. And the retiremen...

That's what I meant. Chinese leadership won't buy into a world government with rights like Vera Mont linked, so it seems the whole thing is DOA until ...

I was more focused on This doesn't track with my own experience. I'm a teacher, a career open to anyone who can go to two years of community college, ...

It's pretty good.

Hasn't capitalism increased the standard of living immeasurably over the last 100 years?

A world government without some Bill of Rights similar to what America has is a non-starter. I don't see the current Chinese leadership agreeing to th...

"One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wipe...

I'm very frustrated. Going after an ex-president means there shouldn't be even a hint of impropriety. Hopefully, there's no there there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics/nathan-wade-fani-willis-da-georgia-election-subversion-case/index.html "The allegations, if true, may not dera...

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Like I said, they won't answer that very simple question: who should have won WW2? That tells you everything about their position.

Who should have won WW2? The Axis or Allies?

Of course you have a good point and of course your opponents won't address it. America and UK killed so many women and children in WW2 they make Israe...

I am not the one claiming that some assemblages of valves, pipes, etc. are possibly conscious and some are impossibly conscious. I think it's all impo...

So it's impossible for certain conglomerations of plumbing to be conscious? Which systems of valves, pipes, pumps, etc. are possibly conscious and whi...

This is where we disagree. I don't see a compelling reason to think the needle of the consciousness meter would move at all if we pointed it at a cong...

When given the choice between a Democrat who won't police the border and a fascist who will, Americans will at least contemplate voting for the fascis...

Where do you stand on the possibility of consciousness emerging from collections of pipes, vales, water, etc.? Even I would grant that it's logically ...

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say memories of the past exist in minds?

It seems obvious to me that there is no duck or rabbit until a mind observes the drawing and attaches meaning to it. This then leads me to think there...

Well, it's the best way to put the consciousness issue to rest: there it no matter for consciousness to emerge from!

It would. Functional equivalents to working organic brains should be conscious, no matter what they're made out of.

Me too, which is why I think idealism is more parsimonious.

We're kind of at first principles here. I don't see a good reason why I should entertain the possibility that consciousness can emerge from water and ...

So no machine consciousness then?

Is it possible for any system of pipes, valves, and pumps to be conscious? Or for consciousness to emerge from such a system?

I think so too. I think the plausibility of my house's plumbing being conscious is about the same as the possibility that I'm a zombie: nonexistent. Y...

You might like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE&ab_channel=TheoriesofEverythingwithCurtJaimungal

I think so.

For anyone that thinks computers are (or someday will be) conscious, what do you say to Bernardo Kastrup's argument here: "You see, everything a compu...

Can consciousness emerge from a computer running a simulation of a working brain?

If consciousness emerges from brains, then consciousness would emerge from something functionally equivalent to a brain, correct?