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Yes, and?

But that's not all it is. Murder is not merely illegal, it is in addition to that unjust and immoral.

And if murder were legal, that would make it okay? Surely not. Murder is intrinsically immoral. Laws don't make it so.

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I'm seeing a distinction without a difference.

There is a moral duty not to murder it once alive.

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/01/2380/

The 9mm Glock would be one. That's what the Orlando shooter predominantly used once he got into enclosed spaces, for example.

A very large, unwarranted assumption. It's actually false: https://www.conservativebookclub.com/book/who-really-cares-americas-charity-divide-who-give...

Define "force" and you'll see that it says quite a lot about guns.

There are handguns that, under certain circumstances, will kill more people faster than an AR-15.

For these examples to be parallel with abortion, one would have to set them up so that a homeless man or a refugee has his neck snapped by a doctor an...

Exactly. Right. I don't use it as a case for making abortion legal. I'm assuming the "you" here is meant generally and is not directed at me.

Yes, I see that now.

Here I might add that two wrongs don't make a right. If abortion is intrinsically immoral, then rape is not a legitimate exception. To punish the inno...

Welcome to the forum, LT. It's good to have you. I agree completely with your argument and appreciate the lucidity with which you presented it. :up:

That's just your brain releasing chemicals as a result of the sugar.

But they are. People have done just that with them.

Cannot? What are you talking about? There have been plenty of mass shootings by means of pistols.

Fair enough.

You're just stalling here. Why do you think it should? And no, I don't know why you would think that, but I can guess. If your reason is "because peop...

I think a gun qua gun qualifies as a weapon of war. And I say it's not negative in other settings.

That wasn't a strawman. I asked a question. I agree that there are restrictions on the means of self-defense, but I don't think that extends to bannin...

I like Rees-Mogg and hope he becomes PM someday.

Why doesn't a right to self-defense entail a right to the means of self-defense?

Define. If there are no non-war-like weapons, and it doesn't seem that there are, then you're just against weapons per se, which would seem to indicat...

I get that it was a joke, but it was clearly meant as a reductio of my position.

It is estimated that there are between 60k to several million defensive gun uses each year.

He mentioned machine guns and bazookas. I filled in other weaponry that I had in mind.

I had in mind grenades, tanks, attack helicopters, fighter jets, bombs, machine guns, RPGs, etc when I made my comment. Civilians don't have access to...

Typical.

Here you're defining the terms of what counts as a situation of defensive gun use: "being attacked on the street." A handgun might suffice for that sc...

Strawman.

Stop replying to me. You've amply demonstrated your inability to address what I've actually said, so your nasty little insinuations do not affect my a...

How do you know? This sort of assumption is at the heart of the anti-gun rhetoric, it seems to me, and it's never demonstrated. There are lots of defe...

Yeah, you do that.

They can't. It's illegal to own such weapons. Civilians don't own the kind of weaponry the military uses. Are you sure you haven't, in light of the tw...

Did the font size and everything else on this site get bigger recently?

A redundancy, by the way. Shariah just means law, so you're saying "law law."

Intellectuals are eminently worthy of blame, so I'm not sure I would advise something be done about it. We might just as well consider whether somethi...

Colbert has been a pretentious, unfunny ass ever since he left Comedy Central.

Indeed.

I'm a vegetarian and a conservative. It's interesting to me that the liberal, Baden, appears to be an unapologetic carnivore.

There is a difference between either/or and both/and, the latter of which applies in the present case.

Okay, so have I.

This way of couching it corresponds to my correction and confirms my suspicion about Moran's description, which was misleading. My point is that the R...

It's no less selective than to agree with a previous court's interpretation to the exclusion of Heller.

To be actualized from what? You presuppose the existence of what is being actualized here. I think to be actual is to exist in one manner, namely, in ...

No, not necessarily. I agree with Heller that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a m...

That is precisely what you have done, tim. I have provided the reason, by quoting court documents, as to why the Amendment grants an individual, and n...