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Why "rather"? Sound events and illumination events are clearly external and public. Shivered into classes and orders, more like. E.g. pitches and hues...
December 07, 2020 at 20:12
Thought you'd never ask. What you are doing is shivering your brain to make it ready to choose among color symbols and pain symbols, thereby ordering ...
December 07, 2020 at 17:50
"Conscious" is what we call certain kinds of thinking, which are real brain shivers. Those kinds of thinking cause us to indulge fictions about an int...
December 07, 2020 at 17:30
I'm glad you find that obvious. But you digress.
December 07, 2020 at 17:04
We'll always have Paris. Are you sure you don't want to call it "the illusion that proves it's not an illusion"? Oh, hang on... Likewise, Thereby gett...
December 07, 2020 at 16:51
Ok.
December 07, 2020 at 14:14
Such a thing as what? That calling consciousness an illusion brings to the table only the temptation of beliefs as fanciful as unicorns? I haven't yet...
December 07, 2020 at 13:34
No worries then.
December 07, 2020 at 10:58
Please clarify, if possible. If not possible, no worries.
December 06, 2020 at 19:35
Fine, this gels with what I just said. Even if your semantics reduces plausibly to syntax and is thus made automatable, you will doubtless impose a we...
December 05, 2020 at 20:57
Obviously not. Haha yes, potentially. When implemented as automation. Then the reference of each symbol token becomes a matter of mechanical fact. As ...
December 05, 2020 at 20:33
The temptation to believe in unicorn-illusions that are no less fanciful than unicorns.
December 05, 2020 at 15:49
There's a clear enough (ethical, even) distinction between a self-driving car able through mere syntax to complain of bodily trauma and an as yet fict...
December 05, 2020 at 15:22
And the source of the misconception appears to be mistaking mere syntactical proficiency for a proper semantical understanding.
December 05, 2020 at 15:02
And vice versa was obviously my point.
December 05, 2020 at 14:08
So, everywhere. I disagree. But it's a special fiction indulged by animals capable of playing along.
December 05, 2020 at 14:06
Or we could say "whatever is actually happening in our conscious process, we'll call that 'mind' and work out what properties it has" etc. Oh, hang on...
December 05, 2020 at 10:42
The same as the distinction between an illusion of consciousness that (like the Chinese Room) doesn't have a proper semantics, and one that does.
December 05, 2020 at 09:19
A trap-door in the floor of the Chinese Room will eject the philosopher into a sea of woo below, immediately upon their confusing the semiotics of int...
December 01, 2020 at 21:59
Day 12, 07.05: Good. 13.15: Good. 16.15: Semitone sharp. 18.00: Good. 22.05: More than a semitone flat. Day 13, 10.55: Most of a semitone flat. 15.15:...
December 01, 2020 at 07:08
Day 11, 11.15: Noticeably flat. 15.35: Typical uncertainty after possibly completely spurious adjustments within a semitone. Let's see... Phew! Not ne...
November 30, 2020 at 11:18
Day 10, 10.00: Half a semitone sharp. 12.40: Whole semitone sharp. Resolution: no more reprospective accounts. 16.05: First image very vivid, so test....
November 29, 2020 at 10:03
Day 9, 09.50: Was worried it might be too hurried, but hoping the play-feel-move-play cycle is speeding up. True or lucky. 15.20: Took more trouble......
November 28, 2020 at 10:00
No, indeed. Fair cop. I am resistant to allowing semantic notions into the analysis of automatic processes - even complex, biological ones. It seems f...
November 27, 2020 at 20:59
Day 8, 10.35: Difficult - to get intimations of too-low and -high - but got there, and pretty dead on. 15.45: Nearly a semitone too sharp. 17.20: Cool...
November 27, 2020 at 10:38
Not stalking you @"apokrisis", just interested in semiotics. (But normally purchase non-bio!) I doubt that a carburettor will function as a referring ...
November 27, 2020 at 00:07
Why ever not? We're talking about the power of social conventions here. Please explain the difficulty? But of course, it could be said that some codes...
November 27, 2020 at 00:04
Is there perhaps a missing comma, or is that a general announcement?
November 26, 2020 at 09:24
Hopefully exactly like that :smile: Day 7, 08.50: Nice one. Was tempted to test whether the vividness of a current earworm, whose proper location I ha...
November 26, 2020 at 09:00
Both, as in, I think I see how "sensations" (like also images and experiences and representations) is seen as a euphemism for "qualia". Don't get me s...
November 25, 2020 at 21:26
Yes, which looks like a semantic correlation. My point (inadequately specified) was that the correlation reduces to a syntactic one, as we would tend ...
November 25, 2020 at 19:26
Sure. And accessible to the interested reader via the quotation link. As with quotations within a thread. If you wish not to be quoted across threads,...
November 25, 2020 at 16:51
But there probably isn't. Semantics could easily be a game of pretend. Syntax, just automation. Confusing the two, woo.
November 25, 2020 at 14:03
Speaking for myself, no: Same with, And Every time a neuroscientist says "neural representation" without clarifying it as readiness to play a social g...
November 25, 2020 at 11:41
Haha, too right :up: Day 6, 11.05: Most of a semitone sharp. 14.50: Ouch, semitone down. Quick one, too confident. 17.20: Just noticeably sharp. 18.30...
November 25, 2020 at 11:06
Not necessarily. Surely, anyone with sufficient flair for metaphor who had experienced shivering, e.g. with cold, could apply the term appropriately t...
November 24, 2020 at 13:38
:smile: Test and report your progress. :up:
November 24, 2020 at 13:07
:smile: Test and report :up: Day 5, 08.30: Just noticeably flat. 12.50: Dang, at least a semitone sharp. Sad to relate, I was allowing myself to think...
November 24, 2020 at 08:33
Music is classes of sound events. Colour is classes of illumination events. Pain is classes of trauma events. I thank you.
November 24, 2020 at 07:55
Heaven forbid.
November 23, 2020 at 19:48
No, "the subjective experience of thinking" is a poetical description of the thoughts, I say. You won't be able to clarify it in concrete terms, sayin...
November 23, 2020 at 16:45
Day 4, 16.05: Phew! Lot of struggling, not sure I wasn't blind-guessing the intimations of up or down. But made several relatively fine adjustments, a...
November 23, 2020 at 16:13
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November 23, 2020 at 15:41
Including that crowning achievement of animal life, thinking in symbols: neuro-muscular activity which is preparing to select among symbols to identif...
November 23, 2020 at 14:59
Grateful for the reference I needed here:
November 23, 2020 at 11:39
What term do you suggest?
November 23, 2020 at 11:33
In my defence, I settled on "shiver" in preference to "spasm". For the prosecution, I should have said "neural activity". To switch sides again, I wan...
November 23, 2020 at 10:53
Sure, if you mean, the neural activity we might figuratively call "mental imaging from memory" is of largely the same character as the neural activity...
November 22, 2020 at 21:47
Day 3, 08.50: Two semitones too high :yikes: 11.05: Mind alighting onto image, let's test straightaway for the hell of it. Most of a semitone too high...
November 22, 2020 at 08:54
Not literally, anyway. It might, of course, be convenient and useful to make the inference in a figurative manner of speaking.
November 22, 2020 at 00:10