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Yes, and so does a model theorist? (And earlier theorists of the semantics of first order logic too.) I thought this was what @"Banno" was pointing ou...

:rofl: Right, but, identify them with sets in the way that model theory maps predicates to sets? (Sets defined on elements in a domain.) Then you can ...

Yes, where is he!

@"litewave" ... Nominalism in the sense of, as @"Banno" says, dissolving properties by analysis. But not necessarily in any strict sense. E.g. not in ...

Glad to see you've since taken the vows of nominalism!

More so, now that I have the privilege of browsing the renowned book. The suspicion grows that Parfit reifies consciousness, as a substance capable of...

Wouldn't you think I was referring to the sentence of yours that I had just quoted? This one: Did you read that through when I quoted it, and still ma...

Is that, like, yes, both? You mean there's an absolute criterion of identity for the artwork, but not for the person... And it's the other way round a...

I do think there's a significant analogy between fake artwork and fake self, and between genuine artwork and genuine self. Hence my initial remark: Al...

Do you mean there's an absolute criterion of identity for the artwork, but not for the person? Or the other way round?

It was your analogy?

Too right.

Also objective, contrasting with subjective, according to Davidson. Also semantics, contrasting with syntax, according to Searle in his Chinese Room. ...

And someone paying that much to prolong their life in the same body, they aren't preserving their person, per se? But then, what's the painting per se...

@"Mijin" Where do you stand on The Perfect Fake? (Chapter III)

Haha, cheeky! No we didn't.

Yes. Quine agrees. Maintain the common attitude by not quantifying in, and hence not trying to reconcile Lois' Superman with ours. Not cashing in on t...

Because if it did, we'd be able to substitute?

Not without losing transparency, no, exactly. But Quine says, do this instead: and things are no better. The " t1" in "believes t1 can fly" won't have...

But isnt Quine saying, let it show up in a belief context and transparency will be sacrificed quite as much as if you put it in quotes?

Nor have I, which is why I edited out that remark. :wink:

Well, it doesn't say the ascriptions shouldn't be in terms of dispositions to assent and dissent? Seems bizarre if it did, given that would rule again...

I dare say. More to the point, it's referential opacity. :smile:

Let alone that the readiness is to say it "in all sincerity"! Not sure I see an inherent problem. But I don't know if anyone (e.g. Davidson) has to be...

As with Ralph accepting sentence (11) here? https://www.uvm.edu/~lderosse/courses/lang/Quine(1956).pdf Yes.

Well, as assent to contradictory sentences?

Also reference, contrasting with sense? (I wonder.)

A behaviourist wouldn't necessarily deny belief or opaqueness, though? Belief can be a disposition to assent to sentences, and opaqueness will be a na...

Wouldn't it be more a cause for wonderment if it created referential transparency? Then the Superman of Lois' beliefs could be relied on to share all ...

Ok cool. But then, was I wrong here? Rather, you think Copied can't answer: ? You don't think consciousness events must be at least as separate and nu...

You mean Sent?? Or confirmed? (Sent refuted or Copied confirmed.) Otherwise I don't know what's going on.

Right, and most of us accept Copied, and you too, but you want to tackle Sent on their own ground (show them it's a quagmire), so it's tiresome if I d...

Can you edit this to clarify which position is answering which, and what you mean by "existence is branched"?

No worries. I wonder if you are equally (or differently, or not at all) non-plussed by this: ?

Agreed. Yikes, not me. More to the point, though, I'm denying that at any point the facsimile becomes a part or continuation of the original.

If the question is then how is "nothing" not an answer? Perhaps you meant, Is that what you meant? There must be something special (and sufficient) bu...

Isn't this kind of thing against the forum rules? Begging your pardon, of course.

Exactly. Perhaps arguing that he is Mijin doesn't add clarity. "Mijin 2" better.

I'll answer again: nothing; only my continued corporeal integrity matters. And so, all of them would be not enough, if you rebuild me from scratch. I....

It seems more realistic to infer episodes of relative coherence among otherwise fleeting and unconnected moments of consciousness? They deserve identi...

It seems crucial to the viability and identity of an organism, at least? Pre-sci-fi, of course. Mereologically? Topological closure? :yikes: Really? I...

How not? ... By way of focusing on consciousness? I don't see that as crucial to the question whether I am personally continuous with spatiotemporally...

Independent medical exam? Spatiotemporal continuity (with me). Held the continuity, yes. I suppose a one atom at a time transportation would destroy i...

My original question was (because I'm curious), if we answer "quite obviously the latter", how does that convict us of ?

But so (by hypothesis) will any number of duplicates be convinced of their continuity with Kirk. So what? I'm convinced I'm Napoleon.

Asking for a friend... I personally wouldn't dare chip in without having yet got around to reading Parfitt. But your clear exposition got me, sorry, g...

No worries. Do you think that those sentence strings mean those different things as they stand? Or do you only mean that they will end up meaning the ...

Haha, 3 a step too far? Are you back peddling on 1 also? Its being a claim and an assertion, even while lacking a prefix to that effect? You seemed to...

What type of action did you have in mind? I was thinking predication. The pointing of a predicate at a thing. By means of a conventional agreement tha...

In the game of language, yes.