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Do you know what kind of people's skills someone working in construction needs? Construction projects are so complicated, you have to deal with varyin...
October 11, 2016 at 23:10
Animals may not have codified laws - in written format - but they do seem to follow a moral code in the way they organise themselves. I'm not sure. Th...
October 11, 2016 at 23:04
Intellectual history - the history of ideas. Not material history - the history of what castle followed upon the destruction of the former.
October 11, 2016 at 22:58
Oh give me a break lol. Trump is very adequate at being emotionally aware. He does those things on purpose. Someone with no emotional awareness isn't ...
October 11, 2016 at 22:57
There is an exact parallel - Love is the end (or goal) of the law. Thus the law is a skilful means of achieving love.
October 11, 2016 at 22:54
No this is false. The evolution of consciousness can be seen in history - but it has no necessary connection with the material evolution of man - the ...
October 11, 2016 at 22:53
And don't animals also love in society? Maybe their own societies, or if you have a dog, in the society of your family, and so forth.
October 11, 2016 at 22:51
You're degrading the point. Hegel was making a point about consciousness and its evolution - not about material history. For example, democracy which ...
October 11, 2016 at 22:50
I would say that the law is conducive but not sufficient for love. If you remain stuck with the law - if you become a legalist - and assume that the l...
October 11, 2016 at 22:43
Not "something" remains - all of it does. Imagine two circles which don't meet. Now you draw a bigger circle around them. Now there is a connection be...
October 11, 2016 at 22:35
For Marx - geist is part of matter - that's his aufheben, which isn't an overturning, but a subsuming. Geist - spirit - is subsumed merely as part of ...
October 11, 2016 at 22:34
Sure, but Cicero was a firm defender of Rome's traditions, including of its form of government. He was also firmly grounded (even though many think of...
October 11, 2016 at 22:32
Just one of many such cases - http://newsexaminer.net/crime/christian-sentenced-to-prison-for-refusing-to-marry-gay-couple/
October 11, 2016 at 22:29
Both are needed. The law is needed for love to become possible. Only under the law is it possible to reach up to love. That's why all religions - even...
October 11, 2016 at 22:25
Depends - aufheben - which is the term you're referring to by "overturning" doesn't translate very well in English. The dialectic process through whic...
October 11, 2016 at 22:21
Yes, live and let live, so long as letting live doesn't get in the way of you living. Certainly for the priest who is forced to officiate a gay weddin...
October 11, 2016 at 22:00
Propaganda. As if the relations of man to man could be transformed. As if human nature could be overcome. As if free will never existed, and people co...
October 11, 2016 at 21:56
They do work if we clarify what they mean. The problem is that these words are used chaotically from place to place. So we have to use specific defini...
October 11, 2016 at 15:23
Because the terms are not clarified. So I proposed to clarify the terms for the sake of discussion. If we use right vs left purely to discuss one's po...
October 11, 2016 at 15:05
Left and right has, at least in my mind, to do only with economic positions. That's how I tend to use it, as it simplifies things and makes them easie...
October 11, 2016 at 14:38
Well yes but this has to do with economic policies - certainly not social conservatism - and Roger Scruton was named by jamalrob as a "social conserva...
October 11, 2016 at 14:29
This isn't exactly true. Social conservative values in Europe (especially Western Europe) are quite a rarity in politics. Sure, you may see issues suc...
October 11, 2016 at 14:24
Thanks for sharing. For the record, I don't disagree with Burke's conservatism - with his values. I just disagree with the way he reaches them - with ...
October 11, 2016 at 09:33
This is false. If I love myself, then I wish to be set straight when I go wrong. And therefore I wish to be punished - to get what I deserve - for hav...
October 11, 2016 at 00:00
@"Wayfarer" - I might add this one
October 10, 2016 at 23:32
;)
October 10, 2016 at 23:24
Well yeah - if I do something wrong, then I do want myself to suffer. So when my neighbour does something wrong, I do love him as I love myself :) - n...
October 10, 2016 at 23:23
Good, then I have no competition! Perfect, I enjoy monopolies :P
October 10, 2016 at 23:21
See - great minds think alike ;)
October 10, 2016 at 23:14
>:O
October 10, 2016 at 23:13
So your argument is that because suffering doesn't give a gain to those who have lost, it is henceforth not necessary? I disagree - precisely because ...
October 10, 2016 at 23:00
Well okay, then I will drop the short-form and just say "trust those who are at least somewhat anti-abortion, pro-family, pro life-long monogamous mar...
October 10, 2016 at 22:53
Tangled or untangled roots, justice still needs to be done :P
October 10, 2016 at 22:52
Ehmm so their friends etc. are "the world"? Look, saying that the person deserves to suffer isn't the same as saying that the world deserves to suffer...
October 10, 2016 at 22:51
That's because liberalism has changed its meaning. Edmund Burke for example called himself a liberal. So did G.K. Chesterton. Now in today's world, th...
October 10, 2016 at 22:46
No you have just done a sleight of hand here. The person who deserves suffering is not "the world".
October 10, 2016 at 22:43
You got any argument for this?
October 10, 2016 at 22:38
Suffering CAN be deserved, of course. So can rewards and goodness.
October 10, 2016 at 22:37
How is it missing the point? I'm saying social conservatives should be trusted. This means that these values - namely policies which are generally ant...
October 10, 2016 at 22:36
Well of course they are meant to suffer if they do wrong - this stems precisely from the definition of justice. As I have defined justice, and as Plat...
October 10, 2016 at 22:32
Well if you bothered to look into it (just check for example the one link I attached previously), you'd see that conservatives and liberals do have di...
October 10, 2016 at 22:29
Of course there is such a thing as social liberalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism). Yes these folks certainly did have social cons...
October 10, 2016 at 22:22
Okay, so what in your view is the difference between liberals and social conservatives? Clearly it seems that we agree that both can desire to change ...
October 10, 2016 at 22:15
No I'm just curious which thinkers liberals get their views of social conservatism from, just for me to compare with the thinkers a social conservativ...
October 10, 2016 at 22:11
Yes exactly - because justice cannot be dealt with by the person who was harmed - the person's mind is clouded and cannot determine a just punishment.
October 10, 2016 at 22:06
Can you justify this please? Who said this? It's only been said that if someone does something wrong they have to pay for it - the fair share of payme...
October 10, 2016 at 22:04
Is she a social conservative? :-$
October 10, 2016 at 21:44
To each as they deserve - that's what justice is. If that's what justice is, then the evil deserve to suffer no?
October 10, 2016 at 21:37
Well we have justice precisely so that punishment isn't up to the harmed one to decide - because again the punishment needs to be fair. Vengeance woul...
October 10, 2016 at 21:36
Okay, I understand your point. This seems to be already after he became rich and powerful. I doubt he got in that position this way. As I said, once p...
October 10, 2016 at 21:32