Agustino

So a bunch of roses aren't part of the living?

I don't read it that way. The PK is not a tyrant, Plato has another category for tyranny. The PK and the surrounding aristocracy are those dedicated t...

There's nothing pragmatic about stepping over roses for NO REASON AT ALL (or for a stupid reason for that matter) :-d

Riiiiight, and there's nothing wrong with that? :s

>:O >:O >:O LOL!

>:O well that may cause rectal bleeding :-O

Sappy, when you walk on the street, and a dog barks after you, what do you do? Let the dogs bark! >:O So what do you reckon politicians would do?

Do you reckon Sappy is like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmbK2co1fU

You mean like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE7qc6vmx7c

:-} So you see nothing wrong with purposefully destroying life?

Plato's political analysis is not naive, it's simply the only analysis that is possible from the reference frame of a decaying democracy (remember tha...

(N) That's nasty man... why would you kill the plants?

Surely, but that there is no difference between liberals and conservatives in practice on divorce/marriage, that suggests that inactive beliefs don't ...

It really was fake news though >:O He did not report accurately what was happening in Russia.

>:O

Why do you reckon this is the case, given the conservative beliefs with regards to marriage? Really? I'd expect this to be so for Orthodox Jews, but c...

In all seriousness now, I don't personally eat much meat, but that's for health reasons (as most meat isn't actually healthy). I could also see spirit...

>:O But if I buy her vegeterian food, she'll start hating me LOL - that's certainly not good... she'll try to eat me at night :s

But she hates those though... :P

So if I have a cat who loves eating meat, should I stop buying meat and feeding her? :( She's too cute to do that, you know... :D

But certainly it seems to me that you would (1) unintentionally have the child (since you, your family and your doctor clearly don't intend this to ha...

The society which I have conceived, where abortion is illegal, except for the circumstances I have outlined.

I agree. But the deed has already been done so to speak. Should I then throw away that meat, instead of make the best possible use of it?

Yes, I agree to this

Yes, but this scenario is very different from the scenario in which you, by your own fault, got a defenceless person to be temporarily parasitic on yo...

>:O I agree, and that's kind of creepy tbh LOL

You have given it life the moment you have conceived it as far as I see things. Okay, under my society, people in your condition would be allowed to h...

So what will you do if Roe vs Wade is overturned in the US? You do realise that this doesn't depend on you as a person. You are just one vote, and jus...

Sure, but this doesn't mean our instincts are irrelevant. Presumably whatever ethics one comes up with, would reconcile our instincts to reason.

But wait a second, you yourself have said that it's the capacity for pain and suffering that makes killing it immoral. So if man has a greater capacit...

Only if your society permits you. I think in the next 50 years Roe vs Wade will be overturned.

Then what is it? If you don't want them to be in there, how did they get in there? Did they magically pop in there? If that's the case, I might agree ...

No, for that would entail that realpolitik is an ethics itself. I agree, such a person would probably act in an immoral way if he has no other system ...

:-} LOL! Surely that only holds true if you're risking your life in carrying them in your body and giving birth to them. Otherwise it's your fault for...

I do X-) (joking lol) There is no question of rights here. All this talk about rights drives me crazy. The question is what's morally correct to do fo...

Why are we required to swat the mosquito? We could let it live and bite us, or we could put a bit more effort to get it out of our homes without killi...

Feminazi you mean? X-)

See I would disagree with you here. My moral instinct tells me that this is wrong. Ask yourself if running over a cat really is just as bad as running...

LOL - poor Heister, he has no clue what you're on about :-O @"Heister Eggcart" are you a realist or an idealist? :D

Can someone explain to this guy for me please, what philosophical error he's engaging in? :-} Perhaps he should also tell us where I have stated that ...

Is killing a human being worse than killing an ant? Is running a human being over with your car worse than running a cat over? If you answer yes to an...

Only if you consider that killing a microbe (or even 1 trillion microbes) is equivalent to killing a human being. To my mind, they're not equivalent a...

Really... I find someone who cuts trees for fun, who steps over roses, who rips out a plant's leaves one by one, all these for fun to be highly immora...

No but consider how we feel about killing mosquitos compared to killing animals. We feel very very differently. I think there's a reason for this. You...

It seems to me that the more fundamental condition for having moral worth is that something is a living being. Whether or not such a being feels pain ...

Be more clear, thinking which way? That killing a mosquito is better (but still immoral) compared to killing an animal? I think such thinking is unavo...

The child is a human being whether he is born or not once he is conceived. So yes, there is the loss of a human being. But if the child isn't given bi...

I would dispute all of these three claims. One does not have moral worth by virtue of being able to suffer. For example, the Buddha doesn't suffer any...

No it doesn't. Something cannot be lost unless it exists in the first place. As my society doesn't currently exist, it cannot be lost, it can only be ...

I agree with you regarding the differentiation existing due to reason, but I think this is a significant difference - it's a difference of kind, not o...