Frank Apisa

Gotta run right now, but I will respond to this in a while, Anti.

IF an individual says, "There are no gods" or "It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one"...THAT IS A POSITIVE ASSERTIO...

There is NO WAY to establish with any certainty that at least one god exists...or that no gods exist. There is NO WAY to establish with any certainty ...

I do not have a reading comprehension problem. Are you really going this far to justify your ducking my question? Jeez

For anyone wondering what this bullshit between Nob and I is all about: I originally wrote: "People who use "atheist" as a descriptor are people who e...

You are ducking my questions...and attempting to "justify" ducking them by calling them nonsensical. Don't bother to justify...just duck 'em.

The fact that is IS so...is what makes it so. You are not ducking my questions because they are nonsensical, Nob. You are ducking them because you are...

They are NOT nonsensical. They show your assertions are baloney...so you have to avoid them. If you truly use "atheist" as a descriptor...you do suppo...

Easy enough. First, here are the statements: "John does not think that god exists" and "John thinks god does not exist,." Let's try it the easiest way...

The "thought" "no gods exist" is nothing but a blind guess about the reality . Most theists and atheists call their blind guesses..."beliefs." So in a...

Fuck religion...and fuck atheism. Nob...you may be a decent person. No way I can know. But your arguments seem out of whack. If you truly call yoursel...

Yeah...not if you want to play games instead of actually have a discussion. I don't feel like playing games.

So you are saying that YOU use "atheist" as a descriptor...but you DO NOT "believe" it is more likely that no gods exist than that at least one god do...

Prove that they are not the same thing??? Is that what you are asking me to do?

Okay...so let's stop doing that. We'll start over again. Here is my comment: "People who use "atheist" as a descriptor are people who either "believe"...

You left out the complete of what I said...and thereby changed what I actually said. Allow me to give you a taste of it: You wrote: "I did misquote yo...

What I said was that "John does not think that god exists" and "John thinks god does not exist"...saree two completely different thoughts. If you asse...

There is a 43% chance that conspiracies such as you are asking about exist, Gregory. There also is a 92% chance that a majority of statistics are made...

I see it as a fable...and the only "moral" conclusion I see drawn is of failure on the part of the humans to the will of the god. Of course, the mytho...

Okay...so the same story...with different interpretations. One from a group who considers itself to be the "chosen people" of the god...and one from a...

Really? I've got a couple of Hebrew Bibles...and they have the same story as the Christian Bibles. Explain to me (to us) the difference as you see it.

You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in that. But what does that have to do with what I said? Nothing...that's what. I did not think it necessary to remind peop...

You are correct..."disbelieving" IS NOT A BELIEF. But is not what I said. I said "People who use "atheist" as a descriptor are people who either "beli...

The "eating of the Tree if Knowledge" myth is the "See spot run!" part of the Bible. Whoever invented it was an idiot. Supposedly the god put two naiv...

The use of the word "atheist"...is result of a person doing "believing"...and for the most part, pretending that no "believing" is going on. People wh...

Agreed.

Bullshit. Anyone using the descriptor atheist is using it because he/she either "believes" there are no gods...or "believes" it is more likely that th...

Are you saying that being unconvinced that gods exist AND being unconvinced that no gods exist... ...are not agnostic positions. Or are you just shoot...

Agreed.

I agree with what you said in your first paragraph...but disagree with these two sentences completely. You haven't thought this through if you think "...

What I actually wrote was: "When the question is: What is the true nature of the REALITY of existence? (of which "Is there at least one god?" is just ...

The first thought that came to my mind when I read your OP was: We make people take a test BEFORE allowing them to drive a car. But we allow them to p...

With those conditions...probably not too often. But some of the wars of less expanse have killed LOTS of people...and the people killed (or displaced)...

Just the bona fide wars of Europe since the 11th century...indicates that war is a frequent enough condition to be considered ongoing. Is your questio...

And to do so... ...one would have to make the unwarranted assumption that "physical entities" are those thing that homo sapiens, the puny prime specie...

True enough...as long as we acknowledge that being unconvinced that no gods exist...also is Agnosticism.

No matter that you "feel" that way, "believing" (guessing, supposing) that an "empty set" is an empty set...is not equivalent to "lacking 'belief.'" I...

Lots of talk about what the word "god" means...but not about what the word "believe" means. Too bad, because a lot more is obtained on the issue being...

Your wording was confusing, BUT...if you were asserting that a) I do not "believe" any gods exist...and b) I "believe" no gods exist... ...are equival...

I agree with the part of your post that indicates that atheists want to claim me...and all agnostics. It would markedly improve atheistic DNA...so I d...

Yes, I have. Many times. More times than I hear the name Trump, lately. Most of the hosts and their guests bring him (Sanders) up often. For some reas...

I don't know what in hell you are talking about, Shawn. Every newspaper I have read indicates that Sanders won California...big time. Yeah, they have ...

Calm down, Man...you're gonna blow a gasket. You were suggesting an incorrect etymology of the word "atheist"...and I corrected you. Seems to me a "th...

Yo... ...the word ATHEISM came into the English language BEFORE the word THEISM... ...so it does not derive from "a" (without) + "theism" (a 'belief' ...

, 1580s, from French athéisme (16c.), with -ism + Greek atheos "without a god, denying the gods," from a- "without" (see a- (3)) + theos "a god" (from...

I grok what you are saying here, SoaG, but the problem with your argument is that the word "atheism" came into the English language before "theism"......

Happy Friday 13th back atcha, 180. Life has changed so much over the last week...I feel like I'm in another world...one created by Stephen King.

The OP topic truly does not interest me very much...but what you wrote here does. if I may... ...did you actually mean "I don't believe in a universal...

Yes...you are wrong again. And to think...you people pretend that you are basing your arguments on logic and science..a laughable assertion if ever th...

I do not live as though there are no gods...any more than I live as though there are gods. But, you are determined to suppose I am an atheist. I guess...