Brett

I rest my case.

I think saying it is a joke, or an illness.

quote="Wayfarer;360862"]The world has a stake in America being taken over by a criminal cult. You’re just making it easy for me.

Exactly.

It’s not hard.

You’ve just repeated what I said.

Leisure time is a difficult thing. We love our weekends and we love the public holidays. It gives us a chance to indulge in our private lives, which g...

You made the statement so it rests with you to prove it. Which of course you can’t do because it’s ridiculous. One day this OP will be used as a docum...

I guess my point went right over your head.

I imagine a lot more people investing their time in things that give them pleasure and satisfaction. It’s not hard to imagine the knock-on effects of ...

I imagine the fact that Impeachment is being considered by the Democrats would be one strike against your comment, also the fact that the Republicans,...

Yes, I’d like to see the parallels with the 1930’s myself.

This sounds like an emphasis on leisure time. Have you read "In Praise of Idleness" by Bertrand Russell? There was also some debate once about job sha...

Just a bit of frivolity there. Hopefully it won’t get me banned. I think I grasp where you’re coming from, I’m just not in agreement with all of it. I...

I understand your point about ranking according to simplicity/complexity. But I feel there must be a point where you can begin where there is enough e...

I think it’s worth considering your OP asking why there no evidence of something more complex than humans created by humans and looking to material ev...

ovdtogt I barely understand anything you say. You’re too cryptic for me.

Yes.

It is sort of absurd, though, to think that a conversation should cease because you disagree.

Of course.

We don't have to agree, because you've removed yourself from the conversation.

But, natural selection is the brilliant child of evolution?

Okay, agreed. So we go from simple to complex?

I’m trying to decide if the planet earth is or is not part of evolution. Is that fragment that was part of the Big Bang not like a seed that requires ...

I assume a purpose in actions required to survive. But a purpose for evolution, no, because it’s dependent on random mutations.

Okay, I’m going to think about this.

Yes, but surely only up to that point, like a light going off.

I don’t see this. Where is it that we survive our deaths?

I don’t think Darwinism assumes a purpose. But I’m happy to use impetus instead of purpose in this conversation.

So then, bear with me, 1) simplicity does evolve into complexity; humans evolve into more complex humans 2) the creative impetus is behind evolution 3...

This is probably true.

So I’m guessing then that from your perspective everything has a purpose, or at least is part of a whole with meaning.

I see ‘evolution’ and Darwinism as the same thing. I know that ‘non- life’ is unable to pass on genes and therefore become part of the process of natu...

Is there any form of consciousness that you would be prepared to accept as less complex than a human’s?

If your defining desire as anything done consciously then I probably can’t argue the point. But there might be things done for others unconsciously th...

Then why make this statement?

What do you mean by ‘non-life’?

Consumerism seems to be a relationship that is completely natural to us. I don’t see any point in targeting Capitalism, hindering it or destroying, as...

From what I've seen of your posts you tend to lean towards relativism. Would that be fair?

Can you indicate at what stage in time, in relation to the evolution of life, this happened. Creativity/intelligence existed before evolution began, t...

I’m now focusing on my OP in terms of memes. Using memes as a metaphor gives me something to work with. Up until now haven’t spent much time looking i...

I don’t accept that for a minute. I know it makes sense if you believe that caring for someone, or loving them, is driven by some sort of desire. But ...

‘That took a chance’ suggests some sort of consciousness. I’m not really convinced by this view of life and evolution. I understand where people are c...

If you’d like to give me the unit of measurement behind this statement then we could work from there.

That does suggest a sort of anthropomorphism of the environment, conscious acts carried out by the environment against life forms. But for what reason...