Brett

If I consider Catholicism and Marxism as ideologies then I see people very much under control, when to go against the ideology means you may burn in h...

In this I regard the child as not having a choice.

I feel that morals are grounded in ethics, and suspect that morals can become modified by cultural conditions, hence slightly different takes on right...

So the proof of the moral rests in the absurdity of the contradiction?

Only act in a way that you would be happy with if it was applied to you. Applying this to every action then makes it a moral action. This does not mea...

Okay, then can you give examples?

That’s not what I meant. Part of our reason is the ability to choose between two possible outcomes. That’s what makes us free, as opposed to animals. ...

Any proof of that?

If it’s a command of reason then why so many bad acts in the world? A reason for doing something isn’t the same as reason/rational is it?

It seems to me that the one thing we all have in common is reason. Reason cannot very according to culture, can it? There are no degrees of reason lik...

Is “command” correct, a command of reason? Would you stand by that? Because isn’t reason a universal human faculty and from that comes the ability to ...

I would class both Catholicism and Marxism as ideologies. One is based on a set of morals (questionable) the other “ a method of socioeconomic analysi...

Okay, I could unpack this more but I don’t think it’s necessary because we can still move forward without doing so. We are free and therefore we can c...

Yes I agree with you on that. You choose to be moral. However to use a categorical imperative as a means turns it into a hypothetical imperative. A ca...

Except the categorical imperative. The categorical imperative is reason in action and this reason is universal.

My response here was to your comment; “ So I think the proper question isn't between morality and ideology. It's between a morality based on ideas and...

This is a bit ambiguous. It’s true that we are responsible for making moral decisions, but it’s not a decision based on personal, or relative ideas of...

I feel that this is one thing a categorical imperative is not. It’s true that part of our intellectual development is the ability to choose between tw...

I don’t know if a moral can be based on ideology. Is it still a moral decision?

That seems reasonable, but if we apply it universally then it means an adult male can marry whoever he wants. It doesn’t say anything about age or con...

In some ways I’m trying to work out where we’re going. Edit: yes I see real ramifications. If I’m correct?

“ So act as to treat humanity, whether in your own person or in another, always as an end and never as only a means.” It seems to me that ideology is ...

In theory then you would have to apply non-action to everything you do. Can you really see that as the moral choice when you do it sometimes and don’t...

If morality and ideology are different then which one should we choose to address education, science, politics?

Are we as a society moving away from morality to ideology? Are morality and ideology different. Is the categorical imperative an ideological concept?

That’s why I’m here, to try and work out my thoughts.

“Thou shall not kill.” That’s a categorical imperative. True?

Do you mean make clearer my point?

So in this case: “the right thing to do” is what? how is someone to carry out that act?

I don’t think it’s is. I’m trying to determine what is a moral position and what is an ideological position using the categorical imperative.

I chose same sex marriage because of the statement “it’s the right thing to do”. Why is it the right thing to do? Same sex marriage is not the issue, ...

Just in case you missed this: Prior to the vote for same sex marriage the position of those for it was “it’s the right thing to do”. Why is it the rig...

I’m trying to determine whether we are addressing contemporary issues from a moral or ideological position.

Prior to the vote for same sex marriage the position of those for it was “it’s the right thing to do”. Why is it the right thing to do?

But could non action be regarded as a Categorical Imperative?

I think what I’m trying to do is work out what are we addressing social issues with, are we addressing them morally or ideologically?

But wouldn’t that mean that the action is to do nothing, which would hardly be moral.

I guess what I’m trying to work out, with same sex marriage as an example, is whether it’s an ethical decision in supporting it or an ideological deci...

Sorry, I’m here to laugh at you, not enlighten you.

You guys are meant to be so smart, but I don’t think so. How is it that you can’t see what’s happening? Is it that you can’t see or just don’t want to...

I don't understand all the cherry picking here. How do you think jobs are created, where does the tax the government collects come from?

Isn’t the question then, if there is a difference, what’s the difference between those who philosophise and those who do business?

Is that all you could take from my post? What are you referring to?

I’m not trying to harass you here, just putting my thoughts down as they arise. This is the core question of the OP; It’s about “most people”. My prio...

I thought we were on the same turf here. You oversimplified and I pointed out another simplification.

But you’re smart enough to know what I mean.

Another broad simplification.

Who said it was that? And what’s it for even if it is that? What’s its purpose? “ He has a philosophy of life in the everyday and colloquial sense, ” ...

Just to be clear about who I’m talking about when it comes to entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs exist all over the world in incredibly varied circumstances...

This seems to over simplify things to me. I know a few people who we would call entrepreneurs. Each of them has a particular philosophy they live by, ...