Ah, I see, so I guess I was right when I thought your OP was talking about something I'd consider common sense. As our discussion progressed, my criti...
I'm not sure. My main criticism was that it seems like you're conflating perception and understanding. You talk about the reports of your acquaintance...
Fair enough, I suppose I don't understand your point. I don't think we can just use the word "true" by itself without context. I want to know what is ...
No worries. English is cunning, the way logical refers to logic-based thinking but also just "clear and good" thinking I find intentionally deceptive....
Does that represent a substantial disagreement? I'm not opposed to the idea that saying "P is true" is roughly an assertion of P. If I say, it's true ...
Is my recollection of our discussion wrong? I thought you agreed with most of what I've said, quite abruptly, it seems as though it must've been the o...
It's a definitive answer to the question of the whole truth, at least. I wouldn't have called them "pragmatic delusions", so long as we're aware they'...
Sadly no, what is "the whole truth in essence"? Well, I doubt it matters, it's clearly a creative endeavour using language, an undertaking that will i...
I didn't take myself to be articulating the structure of reality there... I had imagined something broader, something closer to the "whole truth", as ...
Do you associate subjective with unjustified? That would be unfortunate, it's sad how this word has been butchered. As I've already explained, and you...
I see... I think once we begin to articulate an understanding, we've necessarily entered into the realm of subjectivity. It's too free, too many choic...
My point about what makes it true that a dog is a dog, wasn't primarily a critique of language, but of truth. That truth is a function of logic, and l...
I'm not familiar but after reading a summary, perhaps that's a mistake I ought to correct, the thinking is surely similar to mine. Sure, I am trying t...
Nothing supernatural at play. The understanding is achieved through logic, yes. The limitation isn't in what logic can do, it's the same as truth, it'...
This all-or-nothing "joke" misses the point completely, and represents the entire problem with the conceptualisation of "free will". I have the power ...
I characterise choice by the quality of the choices available. If I can select between ten options, but nine of them are unthinkable to select, then I...
I don't know what you mean by "transcend". I agree that we are following norms, of language, of conversation and of thinking. We follow them because t...
When one knowingly states falsehood it is a lie, but a report of truth, yet not the whole truth, can be a lie when it is intentionally misrepresentati...
In the context of vengeance, I don't think justice is an umbrella term either. When vengeance is fair and right, we call it justice, but if it isn't f...
One's report reflects how one interprets and characterises truth, the truths one deems relevant and which are emphasised. Perceiving what is, is thoug...
That the term refers to things with specific, shared characteristics. I dispute that ideologies and religions are singular things, within English, the...
I don't agree that vengeance is an umbrella term in any sense. I could understand why different interpretations of the concept add to the complexity i...
What phenomenon? The examples of umbrella terms I've given are entirely intellectually manufactured groupings. Arguably, the entire problem here is th...
I agree with your analysis of the issue of misrepresentative exemplars, however, I'm not sure that umbrella terms always have representative exemplars...
Having had some time after writing my OP, I see that the proper question is when an umbrella term can be used in another way, or how we determine whet...
"My experience discussing philosophy" is an example of how umbrella terms are supposed to be used. As a convenient way to refer to a broad variety of ...
If you see someone being mistreated, and you stepped in to stop it, and explained it was wrong to do that, without ever mentioning the racial differen...
Our discussions usually end up in the same place, no matter what we're discussing. I believe it's because of your view of language, and I generally ha...
It's not "hard"? How do you know whether you got it right or not? If you can't tell when you're right or wrong, how do you know how accurate you are? ...
I'm comfortable with subjectivity, and I don't feel like it diminishes the value of what's being said. You are indeed, having to interpret the applica...
That depends on how you understand the race problem. 180's outlining of the problem wouldn't be solved by just that. I'm not sure what to say, Clark's...
How so? I'm just asking for your framework for interpreting something as contributing or perpetuating to racism, in a descriptive manner. Within philo...
This is kind of the same level as a business saying "The problem is we're not making enough money". Okay, but the why is essential, explaining the pro...
Okay, what's "the problem"? I'm aware of your capability to interpret using race as your lens, my concern is whether you're able to know when not to d...
I meant "one". Fair enough, my OP was about how this interpretation requires a change in how we think about racism on an interpersonal level, using th...
If I recall correctly, we hadn't had any disagreements in the thread we talked about morality, but perhaps I said something I disagreed with that you ...
We agree that the comprehensive definition of racism requires an imbalance of power between the group doing the oppressing and being oppressed. Howeve...
I'm unsure to what extent the stats validate the observation. If the government takes two municipalities and over a century, gives one immensely prefe...
BC, we've talked about neoliberal capitalism in the past, and I imagine you might agree that it's not in the best interests of disadvantaged minoritie...
I think a significant problem in describing AI is that our language revolves around our human experience. Things like intent, subjectivity, consciousn...
Your descriptions focus on societal reality on a broad scale, in other words, they've reiterated the comprehensive definition I've outlined. They don'...
I agree the term "racist" is misleading, in more ways than one. I don't know what the term should mean within the comprehensive definition of racism. ...
I tentatively agree with your analysis, I would only argue that it doesn't work that way in reality, though not because it couldn't. Flagellation, as ...
Right, my claim is that there is no mechanism for switching gears, an understanding that drastic improvement is possible will never be invalidated. Th...
Yeah, great summary, I hadn't heard of the term philosophical anthropology, but it describes well our focus. I had meant to contrast improving persona...
That the claim absolutely was made or wasn't made, is irrelevant to the logic of the claim. I agree that the claim that something is superior to somet...
If something is X, only because of its relation to something else, then it's relative, if it's X regardless of anything else then it's absolute. It do...
Fair enough. I had imagined when writing this thread, an impersonalised, generic approach to self-help, distinctly different from the personalised adv...
I imagine AI will make state terrorism more potent than it has ever been, and it will make totalitarian states better at being totalitarian, we're alr...
I think that conceptualisation of the issue itself should acknowledge a broad array of factors influencing the outcomes, without providing a conclusio...
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