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"My argument turns on this idea of conditional reports. I can state it more precisely now, with reference to the previous 'door seeing' example. Say t...

It's true that the testimonial evidence for NDEs in terms of their reliability do not meet the terms you've outlined. I recently did a search to find ...

There are enough other things that she describes to reasonably infer that she saw what she claims to have seen. Furthermore, the doctors and nurses we...

This is good advice for all.

Thanks

I look at testimony in terms of the whole, and I think it's important to take into account how people with no medical knowledge might describe things ...

This was the video I was referring too. Thanks for the replies, I'll give a response a bit later, don't have time right now. https://www.youtube.com/w...

So to sum up your position, if I understand it correctly, you're basically saying that the reports are not consistent enough to make the claim that th...

I would suggest listening to this video if you have the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8scc2YbXUk

I have listened to him before, but didn't see that video. Thanks MikeL. I'm going to post this link in another thread too.

It's true that most people who are near death, or have had some experience that brings them near death don't experience any of the listed testimonial ...

Part of the problem is that people are so invested in a particular world view that they are not willing to consider non-materialist views, or even evi...

Ya, I've heard those kinds of stories, but I don't just accept testimony because it sounds interesting. However, if the same kind of testimony is repe...

There is an analogy between moving from dream states to waking states that is very similar to moving from waking states to a state of disembodied cons...

I have briefly looked at communication with the dead, but I haven't seen any good evidence that would compel me to think there is anything there. Howe...

I'm not sure of your point BC. If your point is that these testimonials are of a similar sort, I would respectfully disagree. A lot of intelligent peo...

What I've presented is not hearsay, but is corroborated by others, and by definition it's not hearsay. Others who are able to verify the accuracy of t...

Did you watch the video I posted? I would suggest watching the video because it reflects the kind of evidence I'm talking about, even if you don't agr...

I can explain how consciousness doesn't need the body in a general way, but we don't have enough information to give a good explanation. I don't know ...

I don't think that the holographic model bolsters NDEs. My evidence is quite separate from that.

I agree.

I agree that memory and consciousness is not confined to the brain. I also agree that the holographic model is something important. In fact, some of t...

Jeremiah you don't have a clue about what a good argument is. Just listen to yourself ramble about nothing, because you gave no good rebuttal besides ...

I'm not simply giving a conviction, although I am doing that, I'm also giving good reasons, objective reasons to support a conclusion.

I'm not sure why people think that science is the only reasonable way of coming to know that something is the case. I know lots of things without poin...

That one video is not necessarily enough to convince someone, but there is just too many accounts, and thus too much testimonial evidence for me to re...

It's true that experiences can occur without the actual events occurring, but this is not the case in these situations, at least a large portion of th...

I'll sum the video up for you. Pam had an operation for an aneurysm in which the brain had to be completely drained of blood and the heart stopped. Sh...

That's a fair question, but regardless of our inability to explain how a mind might work to explain the experience, there are too many things that spe...

Ya, I guess the evidence does stack the deck in my favor. That's my point. By the way give an argument. All you're doing is giving an opinion.

You watched that whole video.

Just as a point of interest, this really has nothing to do with religion (I know you're not saying it does), although people do use it to bolster reli...

To be honest if I had heard this testimony from just a few people I would agree with you, but there is just too much to ignore. Most don't deny that p...

That's a good point, and it's one that has been addressed by those who have thought much about this subject. First, a brain starved of oxygen isn't go...

The seventh post on the first page gives my argument. My first two posts give some background information. There have been quite a few books written o...

That's a good argument Jeremiah. I have to say if someone tells me something is BS I surely conclude they are right. Man you're good.

I have given an argument. You have not given a counter-argument. The argument is clearly presented. Tell me why the testimonial evidence should not be...

I have found no credible argument against these experiences. I've read the counter-arguments, namely, that they are hallucinations, illusions, drugs, ...

What is real? Unfortunately one cannot give you an answer that will probably satisfy you. You have to go through the process of working it out for you...

It's interesting to me that those who don't believe that there is evidence that consciousness, for example, can survive the body, will not allow any e...

It was suggested in one of the posts that science is somehow the arbiter in this dispute, i.e., the implication seems to be that if science can't know...

I actually came to this view by studying near death experiences. That we are all part of a central or core mind or intellect, and that reality is crea...

On the one hand you seem to agree that our perceptions are grounded without need for a justification, but then you add that "...it doesn't follow that...

It only begs-the-question if you believe that propositions like "I live on the earth" or "I am a person," need some kind of justification. What I beli...

The world lacks love. Everything good flows from love.

There is a lot of truth in what you're saying. I see so much that disgusts me when I look at religion. However, no one is immune from group think, it'...

Part of the problem is where you think the self is located. Obviously if you belief that the self is only connected with the body, then any idea of ha...

Of course a high number of testimonials isn't necessarily evidence. The criteria for good testimonial evidence as given in my post is something to be ...

That's no argument, you're just assuming their nuts because it doesn't fit a particular world view. Besides there is just too much corroborating objec...

One can always explain away any sensory experience one disagrees with by coming up with something that sounds plausible or possible. What makes any se...