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On Certainty Post 4 "Whether a proposition can turn out false after all depends on what I make count as determinants for that proposition (OC, 5)." Th...

If I presuppose there are good reasons for believing X, then I'm presupposing there is a justification for X. In this case presuppose means to entail.

On Certainty Post 3 "If for e.g. someone says 'I don't know if there's a hand here' he might be told 'Look closer'.--This possibility of satisfying on...

Presupposes as used in this context means there is a justification for believing X, or rather a justification for making the claim that one knows that...

The word certainty in On Certainty seems to be used in at least two ways. First, a subjective sense, viz., "I feel certain." Or, two, "I know or am ce...

On Certainty Post #2 "If you do know that here is one hand , we'll grant you all the rest. When one says that such and such a proposition can't be pro...

Sorry, but I'm through responding, this is going nowhere but around in circles. Thanks for all of the responses.

I don't believe the cat "takes it to be the case that the floor is solid," it acts as if the floor is solid. Maybe it means the same thing to you, but...

I don't think the dolphin believes it's seeing a reflection, reflection involves concepts that the dolphin doesn't have. It believes it's seeing anoth...

I don't know how many times I have to answer this question, for the umteenth time, beliefs manifest themselves in our actions (nonlinguistic or lingui...

I don't see this being the case at all. It is similar to saying that meaning can be associated with neural networks. Beliefs and meaning both refer to...

I think Witt believed that there are things can be shown but not said, because he believed there was or is a limit to language. I disagree with Witt o...

Witt was sympathetic to Moore's propositional claims, but I don't think he was trying to make sense of Moorean propositions. On Certainty shows throug...

I really don't know how to make it any more clear than I already have. Nonlinguistic beliefs are simply those beliefs shown in our actions. This is cl...

You can keep using this thread, I really don't have much more to say.

Well, if it is the case, then one would have to show how it is the case. Many things are possible, but that does not give us reason to suppose they ar...

Ya, that statement is clear. All he is saying, is that he believes, beliefs are statements. I'm saying, as you know, that beliefs can be reflected in ...

I really don't know what else to say, or how to respond to some of your responses. It's as if we're talking past one another. I tried to simplify my p...

Then I'm not sure I understand your objection.

Ya, it could have been a bad day. :gasp:

My only point in saying that it has nothing to do with pointing to something in the mind is to address the beetle-in-the-box question, i.e., it's not ...

We seem to be going in circles, so let me see if I can boil this discussion down to its essence. Can a belief (a state-of-mind as I define it) have fo...

Forget the idea that we can state the belief, we can see or observe the belief without the stating. I don't think he is offering a candidate that is s...

Wittgenstein's hinge-propositions aren't propositions in the normal sense. In fact, one could argue they aren't propositions at all. They look like pr...

I don't think this is true. I pointed out where in OC 284 and 285 where Wittgenstein seems to hold to the notion that some beliefs aren't propositiona...

I can't think of any beliefs that are un-statable. What prompted this question?

The structure would look something like the following: (1) The World (2) Minds a) Beliefs (prelinguistic and/or nonlinguistic) b) Beliefs (linguistic ...

While it is true that Wittgenstein doesn't delineate the idea that there are prelinguistic or nonlinguistic beliefs, this doesn't mean that the idea i...

I'll have to find that book.

It was a very good article. I'm glad Luke pointed it out to me.

The point of me saying, "keep in mind that I'm not necessarily trying to keep my thoughts in line with Wittgenstein," is that they are my thoughts, no...

You'll have to explain this a bit more. Keep in mind that I'm not necessarily trying to keep my thoughts in line with Wittgenstein. I disagree with so...

I read almost all of that article (Wittgenstein's grammar: through thick and thin, by Danièle Moyal-Sharrock), and find it fascinating, thanks. I see ...

You've now switched back to Wittgenstein's early philosophy, which really has nothing to do, or very little to do with his last work called On Certain...

You seem to be contradicting yourself, to know is to give a justification in some form. I'm saying and I believe Wittgenstein is saying that we don't ...

Where did you get this idea from? On Certainty, which was written in the last year and half of his life was addressing Moore's propositions.

When it comes to bedrock beliefs or foundational beliefs, my point has been consistently that they are not beliefs that can be known, i.e., they are n...

In Wittgenstein's critique of Moorean propositions (common sense propositions) he points out over and over again that it is improper to use the word k...

I found an interesting video that is worth watching if you have an interest in this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGZSC8odIU

Ya, because it's so obviously wrong that it's like saying 2+2 doesn't equal 4.

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No, that is not what I am suggesting. I am saying, as per the OP, my emotional state probably has nothing to do with risking my life to save another, ...

Sometimes doing the right thing has nothing to do with how you feel, and that's the point. It may not feel good to jump into ice cold water to save an...

At least your sticking to your argument, that takes commitment. Why are you arguing for your conclusion, since it doesn't matter what others think. Yo...

Why shouldn't it be done, i.e., it is a good emotion for the serial killer. Moreover, if everyone understood positive emotions as good, then they woul...

So, the good is equivalent to whether or not I have positive emotional response (rhetorical question). If a serial killer gets a positive emotional re...

So, if we had 5 people who had a negative emotion and 5 people who had a positive emotion, would your post be good or bad? Or, would it be both good a...

The only thing that counts is how I feel, i.e., what emotion I feel. It's my emotions that determine what's good and bad. My emotional response is neg...

I had nothing but negative emotions while reading your OP, so it must be bad.

No, it is not objectively true, it is subjectively true, it is dependent on the subject (the person). Yes, I am saying there are subjective facts. Yes...