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Oh, thanks for that, Tate. It looks like my interpretation chimes with the latter. I should have known that there would be an early and a late Nietzsc...

OK but you didn't address my question: What I noticed here was the change from God to god. The difference in context and circumstance; between time ('...

For present and future reference, to consider how this is reversed by Nietzsche: Strange thing happened there. I didn't bold the last sentence. It cou...

How do you hear it?

OK, getting there. Reading continues > Section 3

:up: An excellent summary of your considered attitude and practice to a close reading of any text. Sprinkled throughout many discussions in a most hel...

Just for you, rosebud :wink: :hearts: :flower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVPPe-xjVds

I hadn't thought of that. It seemed like a dialogue. So, is this internal self-talk - or a writer's technique to help the reader better know the chara...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQWk7l8Su2U It is time for you to stop all of your sobbing Yes it's time for you to stop all of your sobbing, ohh ohh ...

Thinking aloud. Z asks the saint 'Why...? Did he mean "When did I speak of, say anything about love?" - Love of material stuff? Or is it short-hand fo...

I interpret 'mankind' here as being things of the world; material objects and desire. The saint rejected this, seeking spirituality - the 'higher' lev...

Interestingly it continues: ? “Ich liebe die Menschen” means literally “I love human beings.” Earlier translators ignored the ecological framework in ...

OK. Found it. You're using this translation. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1998/1998-h/1998-h.htm#link2H_4_0004 We can copy this freely, I'm going t...

OK. Got that. I'll just have to check the bottom of the pdf pages for the actual book page in the translation we're using.

OK. I think I'll leave this discussion now. It's becoming a nightmare to follow. What page, where?

If you only refer to the Cambridge book pages, I have difficulty finding the quotes in the Cambridge pdf. I'm using the pdf, so I've been referencing ...

It doesn't spoil if it helps me understand where I'm at with my questioning if that makes sense. So, anything you got is more than :100: welcome!

:smile: BTW, I am not looking at secondary sources as I make my way through this. I'm enjoying it as a newcomer. Like reading the Short Stories but I ...

Z is praying to the Sun, his spiritual 'God'. He wants nature's supernatural blessing so that he can be a 'disciple' and carry the word, in all its sh...

Yay, I'm cooking with gas :fire: *keeping an eye on energy consumption and cost*

@"Fooloso4" What does this remind you of? Plato's “I went down yesterday to the Piraeus..." The symbolism of going from Athens (the light, "above") to...

Spoiler alert :wink: Haven't got to that bit yet... Thanks, this sounds like a good yarn :cool:

Thank you :up:

When I read this, I wondered why he had first sought solitude...it seemed to me that he was like any other world-weary hermit and seeker of peace and ...

:up: Your thoughts so far?

:up: I wasn't intending to take over. In fact, I'm not even a Nietzsche fan :yikes: Not sure I will follow through. Just a few suggestions, as request...

Excellent advice! I've had a look at other book/paper discussions. The OP is important to set out the aims and the way forward. Here is a pretty forma...

I have similar problems with its readability. I've given all my copies away! A book discussion might be helpful if well organised and roughly schedule...

1. 2. In 2. there is a footnote for 'I must go down'. Starts: 'German uses untergehen, literally “to go under” for the expression the sun “goes down.”...

Hi there - a suggestion for choice of translator. Why not pick a passage in each of the online versions to compare. Readability and pleasing aesthetic...

I accessed the pdf without a problem, ignoring the warning triangle ( !) and the 'Not Secure'. Some scrolling down, through the Intro and Further Read...

... and the movement of 'Opinion' back to General Discussion. Thanks, Michael :up:

Thank you. I appreciate the positive feedback...

@"Baden" and @"Michael" I have attempted an Edit of the OP which involved moving things around a bit. Had to delete some posts so hope the thread now ...

@"Michael" Thank you too for further feedback, following PM conversation. I have edited the OP as follows: Also, removed the YouTube videos. I am grat...

Thank you for that welcome feedback.

Tears of Laughter. Heaps good :fire: Now, we'd better call a halt to all this mania... Until later :flower:

That is your opinion? So wrong. Come on. Fortes fortuna iuvat :strong:

OK. But that was then, what would you say now? Perhaps take a moment or two, in silence. To consider... Dan Dennett's Opinion on Rhetorical Questions:

So, did you show how to appreciate the flower in the moment. Or did you cut the vipers down...

I want some of that. :cool: Although. I think I might have had a slurp before... :chin: Best wishes :pray:

Keeping it real :up: Indeed. Without opinions TPF would be an arid desert. They are an expression of what we think we think or know and are open to ch...

Thank you for spelling it out in your post and at the end. :sparkle: You are a shining example of a philosopher. In my opinion :wink: As are all the p...

Thank you. Worth the wait. There's always another story...more lyrics which mean a lot, in different ways. You should know me by now. I love a good ra...

The question is: What is the right place? The Lounge? Well, we are here now, so let's dance as if we were at a Symposium, talking love. Yes. Different...

Yes. I noticed that. However, when I first started the thread, I wondered whether it would meet the standard. I did consider entering it into the Loun...

Thank you I'll take a look. My copy is no longer to my liking and it's a bit yellowing...

Thanks for your quick response; I'm grateful for the support. There are certainly areas which could be improved upon re the judgement calls of some mo...

Which translation of Meditations would you recommend?

Thanks for the useful summary of the Stoic perspective. I later added: So... I think I need a short translation of the summary :wink: But I suppose I ...