Isaac

Yes, exactly. Only the problem today is that the means by which that is done is being eradicated. Experts raising As Professor Stefan Baral put it in ...

Uh huh. I presume here you're giving a demonstration of the fact that... ..or alternatively you could actually quote me rather than more traducing. I ...

Yes, I agree. I think the development of beliefs is far more directly causal than that. I see hidden states of the system as causing the states intern...

Appropriate reaction, I think. It's a problem on both sides of the debate, and I don't think I'm just being nostalgic in saying it didn't used to be. ...

So are we all ideologically driven. Or is it just conclusions opposed to yours?

Yes, I think active inference is walking the same knife edge that quantum physics has to walk. On one side is a much better understanding of how the b...

This is not a Gallup poll. I don't think anyone on this site (and I suspect anyone within a twenty mile radius of you) is in any doubt as to what you ...

Yeah, I can see that, but claiming colour sensations are strongly emergent is still begging the question. It's the matter the thought experiment is me...

Weird thing happened to my reply. It's above.

. Why would that change the fact that we don't expect the contents to be there in the description.

Why not?

Right. OK. So what's wrong with the entirely physical description I gave?

Why? It doesn't seem to follow at all. Why would it be the case that if everything is physical we can describe it? What is it about being physical whi...

Yep. I agree with you on that one. How have you done the first part? How have you determined the presence of a conflict of interest or history of bias...

Yes. That one. But why would I do what you think is the right thing? Would you do what I think is the right thing? Weren't we just talking about stepp...

By citing one post. Keep counting.

Not wrong, no. It's about having reasons, not proving beyond doubt that those reasons are true. If a 'climate scientist' is being paid by the oil indu...

No, of course not. Because So still

Maybe, but how would anyone know (and trust) who those people were such as to ensure they paid sufficiently serious attention to them? I haven't read ...

That's literally all of us. No one here is an immunologist, yet we've just had massive long conversations about "vaccines and immunity and stuff", inc...

Learning about colours causes changes in the parietal-temporal-occipital region, the hippocampus, the frontal cortex... Seeing colours causes changes ...

No @"Yohan" is spot on. It's exactly the question the medical ethicists are asking.

Yep. Again, did you think anyone would disagree with such an obviously true statement? Or were you looking for brownie points? Here...4 gold stars for...

Yeah, but you're only saying that because... No, I'm not going to flog that any further. (Although, I'm only saying that because...)

Yes, the horror. Of course, though, with our newfound abilities to discern motives from a few internet posts, I can confidently say that you're only s...

No. As I've said dozens of times before. They don't meet the normal minimum standard of being experts in the appropriate field without discoverable co...

Nope. I'm saying that it's nonsensical to use the fact that people sometimes lie as an argument that this particular person in this particular instanc...

And you couldn't have seen that coming a mile off?

Yes, it seems so obvious now. Everyone who disagrees with me must be a lair, it's the only realistic option - after all, intelligent people couldn't p...

I suspect you know what you are doing. This is why I call it bad faith. Now what? It is pointless to call for something everyone already approves of.

I'm the one being accused of arguing in bad faith here. I deserve a little more than mud-slinging. Yes, which is exactly what this discussion is about...

Good argument. I'm undone. I'm not at high risk, so you'd agree there's no need for me to be vaccinated?

No. Nope. A combination of vaccinating those at highest risk, strict lockdowns, mask wearing, hygiene, investment in community health services, testin...

Ah, good, now we're getting somewhere. Let's have the proof then.

You know it does not apply to me either, or rather, you know that I do not usually behave this way.

Uh huh. So I think all those apply to you, you think all those apply to me. Now what?

Yeah, as you may know, the degree of inference in perception is a topic of interest to me and Hoffman is kind of the bogeyman of it. He's the place we...

Ha! Seems I missed... No, that's exactly what the discussion is about. the identification of those people. Identifying a category doesn't constitute p...

Yeah. Some of my wife's early work was with the development of children's writing recognition. A similar (I think) thing is found there. The recogniti...

Yep. I'm offering 4:1 on 'genocide', 8:1 on 'Armageddon' and 10:1 on the zombie apocalypse outsider. 2:1 favourite is that opposing views are actually...

No, you're right. I've checked quite a few, and the brains doing the believing, but I've not checked every single example. I kind of work on the princ...

Yeah. Proof and evidence being two different things here. That the sun rose yesterday is evidence that it will rise tomorrow under certain modelling a...

I'm not sure I'm actually following the link the OP is trying to make between Hoffman and 'logic'. Hoffman's theory is all about the veridical break b...

Yes, that's it. The prescience of some of Wittgenstein's ideas still surprises me. Not quite. As the authors say "we show that left-lateralized pariet...

Exactly. It is neurologically impossible to believe something without evidence.

Here I'm thinking of 'good' reasons as being those experience has taught us tend toward satisfactory results. Habits of thinking. If a person saying t...

I think that's self-evidently true to an extent, but then again people regularly make significant sacrifices for the sake of their children's comfort ...

Makes sense. It's difficult with hypothetical threats. Like with terrorism - more people are killed by fridges falling on them, but the existential th...

The debate is still going on I'm afraid. I've not kept up with this thread, but as I understand it, the debate is about automaticity of number recogni...

Why do you think they should cause any particular concern?