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I see. We're back to the assumption that the way things seem to you must simply be the way things are. There's nothing to say to that. If you can't un...
December 31, 2021 at 07:36
Not wanting to repeat myself, but coming to respond to you here I note it's the same problem as I've just written about above. I think what is 'neglec...
December 31, 2021 at 07:17
I think something important to distinguish here is 'judging' as in being judgemental (acting harshly, ostracism...), and being free to interrogate a b...
December 31, 2021 at 07:12
It seems all we do is repeat. The right course of action in the 'task at hand' is determined by who you trust to deliver it. The two are inseparable. ...
December 30, 2021 at 20:18
What makes you think that's what I'm talking about (especially given my quite explicit definition)? It seems quite a stretch for you to take a fairly ...
December 30, 2021 at 20:15
Yes. You're describing a state of affairs (unless your claim is that you and only you are able to refer to the actual weather). I'm arguing that the s...
December 30, 2021 at 20:15
No. I mentioned (bolded for your reading pleasure). If not death (and death which higher vaccination levels could mitigate), then what problem are you...
December 30, 2021 at 20:14
As I believe the kids say 'well, duh!'. Yes. I think you're right, but I don't see such exclusion as z problem, rather the opposite, that if we don't ...
December 30, 2021 at 20:14
But I think one might be being created nonetheless, by invoking a 'special language' in which religious texts are written. If I read in Mein Kampf tha...
December 30, 2021 at 20:14
Yes. I see @"Ennui Elucidator" has interpret it this way too, so I guess that's my bad. I'm not attempting a redefinition of the word 'religion' (give...
December 30, 2021 at 18:06
I agree. Why would Christianity be our model for what a religion looks like? I'm not arguing that people must take the Bible literally. I'm arguing th...
December 30, 2021 at 18:01
None. You argued that the situation I described as 'fair' was not, in fact, the case. What's 'fair's and what's 'the case' are two different things. S...
December 30, 2021 at 17:48
Which two mentioned things? Differentiate what? You're being quite opaque here.
December 30, 2021 at 17:22
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356756711_Latest_statistics_on_England_mortality_data_suggest_systematic_mis-categorisation_of_vaccine_status...
December 30, 2021 at 17:19
My argument is about what's fair, not about what's the case.
December 30, 2021 at 16:53
Yes. That's clear from what you've already written, but since you're not the Oracle of Delphi we expect reasoning or justification for your beliefs. I...
December 30, 2021 at 15:54
Well then there's little point in continuing. I'm not here to act as straw man for you to interpret what I'm saying in such a way as to make a fun dec...
December 30, 2021 at 15:50
OK, I get that bit. ...but this seems to be just saying that if an observer recognizes that 1 and 2 are occurring then it's raining (because 1 and 2 l...
December 30, 2021 at 15:49
I don't think there is one. Not a clear one anyway. That's the whole point. You're simply assuming the way things are is they way they ought to be, th...
December 30, 2021 at 15:49
There seem to be a number of common threads in the responses I've had (plus some of the posts not directed to me), so I'm going to try and sum them up...
December 30, 2021 at 15:48
I don't get that from it. I don't see anything in the presentation of the problem that excludes Christians from joining in the dissection of it. On th...
December 28, 2021 at 09:53
Oh absolutely. But here I find these struggles are presented as segregated from ours. We can't understand theirs, they can't understand ours. The poin...
December 28, 2021 at 08:01
I can't make sense of this. The right 'feeling' is love and compassion (as if it isn't also for the non-religious!), but later you say they "believe i...
December 28, 2021 at 07:22
No. I don't think it makes any sense at all for statement to be 'in accordance' with a state of affairs. States of affairs are causes of our sensation...
December 28, 2021 at 07:08
@"AgentTangarine" - Not just may. It's almost a mathematical certainty that they will.
December 28, 2021 at 06:52
I was trying to estimate the line you were drawing with... All, I've been trying to do this whole time is get what you think the properties of a worm ...
December 28, 2021 at 06:50
and others... So, I'm going to come out and say that I don't think Christians, by and large, actually believe the things they say they believe. I thin...
December 28, 2021 at 06:47
I have tried (and tried, tried again - as per boy scout instruction), but I'm afraid I can't make head nor tail of what you've done there. Any chance ...
December 28, 2021 at 06:47
From 'Determinants and Consequences of High Fertility' - Robert T. Lazarus, Professor in Population Studies, Department of Sociology, Ohio State Unive...
December 28, 2021 at 06:47
Possibly, by way of a bridge, I think the difference being expressed here does not require the 'just'. It is sufficient to carry Lewis's concerns that...
December 27, 2021 at 11:43
It might surprise you then to learn how mercurial neural networks are. The concept is known as redundancy and degenerative architecture (or just degen...
December 27, 2021 at 08:19
Maybe. I'm not trying to draw a line here, I'm trying to establish the line you want to draw. The type of thing/process 'intention' is reserved for. Y...
December 27, 2021 at 08:19
Almost the exact reply I've just written to Srap. I think we're very much on the same page here.
December 27, 2021 at 08:14
Happy with that.
December 27, 2021 at 08:14
I think that's true, but they must have some ties into the world, else what are they by little antigonish's? They need coherence, implication, consequ...
December 27, 2021 at 08:14
That sounds consistent. We'd need to see the demonstration of reducing "it's raining" to mathematical terms.
December 27, 2021 at 08:13
Yes, I think that's perfectly coherent. It's just not how I think language works. For me, there's a difference between something which we can't be 100...
December 27, 2021 at 08:13
Yes, indeed. Did you notice how I avoided using the word 'narrative'. I think I've grown. I'm going to start at the end... Faith in what? Faith that G...
December 26, 2021 at 17:05
Well do expand then. I'd hate to miss a good story.
December 26, 2021 at 16:34
I define 'conscious' (earlier in this thread, even, I think) as a process of logging certain mental states to memory. So I think I can be functionalis...
December 26, 2021 at 16:34
True. I hardly think that's a fair summary though. Is it. How do we know they're 'bad' people if the arbiter of justice must be divine. If we abdicate...
December 26, 2021 at 14:35
We don't know - people are barely doing it because we've been sold the fantasy that the vaccine will save us like some Disney prince, so there's barel...
December 26, 2021 at 13:43
Rarely, in my experience. They mostly use it when they disagree with the other person and they think the other person ought to believe what they thems...
December 26, 2021 at 13:00
I don't read either the article, nor @"Banno"'s OP as an attempt to 'understand' why Christians think they way they do. We could invoke upbringing, gr...
December 26, 2021 at 10:49
So clean the environment. It's quite simple. SARS?CoV?2 is killed quite easily, most anti-bacterial wipes will do it, soap and water, just time with U...
December 26, 2021 at 09:09
Nor is this just an American thing. The UK government have recently approved the roll out to children against the advice of their own Advisory committ...
December 26, 2021 at 08:52
So who would you want as pandemic manager? The government? A little query for you (and any other nothing-to-see-here, business as usual advocates) to ...
December 26, 2021 at 08:44
Interesting, thanks. I've run into a lot of trouble for lack of a full grasp of just how many different ideas there are of what 'belief' means. I've b...
December 26, 2021 at 07:58
No, the above pretty much covers it. It sounded too much like the 'other' option was part of the decision-making process, as if it's likelihood (or la...
December 26, 2021 at 07:57
I meant 'conscious of...' Not that you couldn't ask the same question there too, but I'm really just trying to get at whatever distinction you're appl...
December 26, 2021 at 07:57