Yep. So is it not a problem that there's Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, or is there no problem because there's no Neo-Nazis? It's not clear which is your claim...
So there are Neo-Nazis in many countries but not in Ukraine? Or there are Neo-Nazis in Ukraine but it's fine, we're happy to have a few Neo-Nazis here...
Yep. The lives and livelihoods of millions are at stake if Putin launches anything nuclear. But hey... Let's keep provoking him, see if we can't get h...
Firstly, we're talking in the first instance about the allegations (the speech act and it's function in global diplomacy) not the facts of the case. I...
Where has this approach ever worked? It seems the latest fashion in information management but I don't see any precedent for it actually working. All ...
Why is that even important? Are you considering elevating me to the judiciary? What does my moral judgement of Putin have to do with anything at all? ...
In the case of Poland. Or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania etc. That's a ridiculous threshold to insist on. "If we can't prove one of the theories outright,...
Right. I was having trouble parsing the comments such as... ...which seemed fairly unambiguous. No talk about US and European complicity here, thankyo...
Scroll back through the thread. In what way have those blaming the US/NATO/Europe attempted to make the conversation only about that? I'll bet you can...
I don't know if you'd noticed, but defense and attack use the same military. Whether it's one or the other is about intent, nothing concrete can prove...
Yep. So I'm asking you what reason Poland had to feel threatened by Russia in 1997. Otherwise none of that is legitimate and we'd have to look for oth...
Yeah, you have to wonder about the politics of some of the detractors here when one considers the political positions of some of the people that have ...
Go on... This is a problem because... On the contrary, you've been presented with the rational arguments of no fewer than five experts in their releva...
Well hang on. For this analogy to hold Poland would have to have been threatened with invasion by Russia to motivate it to join NATO back in 1997. A r...
I need do nothing of the sort. If there is suspicion that NATO is unduly influenced by the US (as has already been presented) that is sufficient. Susp...
Yeah, I see that. I think the idea is that the response should always be appropriate and defensive, and many feel that it has been unhelpful and provo...
Yeah, what people keep getting wrong about anti-capitalist thought is that it entails some kind of conspiracy, that aim is always taken at the puppet-...
Well, depends whose analysis you read. No less a hawk than Tom Friedman wrote and the architect of Russian containment George Kennan And Mary Elise Sa...
It's not an 'at least', it's a feature of the system. You see it as counterbalance to the rampant consumerism, but I see it as a counterpart. This is ...
That's all interesting stuff, and you've been kind enough to answer the first half of my question. So I wonder if you'd perhaps consider the second. F...
Since @"ssu" and @"Christoffer" seem so keen on ascribing to me positions I don't hold, I thought I'd make a post here to easily refer to. I think the...
Do I need explain it? In the article I cited, Mearsheimer clearly advocates exactly the positions you've been vehemently denying the validity of. Eith...
What? I just asked you for sources to back up the claim that "this is all Putin". If you were adding a little rhetorical hyperbole, that's absolutely ...
Again. Just more presentation of the alternate possibility that the US were barely involved and opposed to the far-right elements. Can we just save ou...
What is it about my question that no-one wants to answer it? It seemed quite simple. What is the advantage in exculpating the US and Europe? You've an...
The citations you should have provided to back up claims like ...especially if you're then going to go on to repeat over and over things like... Right...
I don't know, I haven't yet had the opportunity since you've offered zero citations to support the notion. Cite one of these experts and we'll see if ...
A position literally no informed commentator holds. There's debate around just how much culpability the US and Europe have. There's disagreement as to...
So explain to me the advantage in exculpating the role of the US and Europe in catalysing this crisis? Russia is the main instigator, right. I think w...
Yes, I know. I'm asking you about the 'but...'. Why's it there? I'll try to make it clear. There are some facts about which it seems we agree... 1. Le...
As our governments consider what to do to help the people of Ukraine is exactly the time to remind them that we're watching and won't stand for the so...
Yep. I agree with both those sentiments. No your aim. In writing here the way you are. In so strongly rebutting anything I say which lays any blame at...
@"ssu", @"frank" et al Let me ask you, what's your aim here? Mine's simple. I want to hold my government and its allies to account for their role in t...
Because I don't believe it's not true and I don't believe the articles I posted confirm it's not true. I don't require a bloodied dagger to hold my go...
Christ! We're supposed to hold our governments to account, not treat them like well intentioned children. Our governments should be terrified of us, e...
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2022/feb/25/anti-war-protests-across-russia-in-pictures Putin's not my head of government, he's not w...
That hotbed of radical extremism The Guardian at the time... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict Ex...
No, I asked you for evidence. I respect you sufficiently to assume you have a source, as opposed to just making it up off the top of your head, I was ...
Of course. But perhaps four days ago when I actually made the comment to these exact same group of participants might have been a more appropriate tim...
Yes, I realise that. Not my best judged response, but I did make it clear in the very next post, so why it's still being used in lieu of any substanti...
You've given no such summary to me. I don't read all the posts. If you've already summarised you might just link to the post. Otherwise, as I said, th...
Then what exactly do you think is happening here? It's coming across as a concerted effort to render all mention of the far right problem in Ukraine a...
Your answer... It's a fact, but we're not allowed to mention it (on pain of insult) because the Ukrainians are currently victims of an oppressive inva...
The whole book? I don't suppose you'd be willing to present any of here... Otherwise "what I'm saying is true...it's in a book" isn't awfully helpful....
...which was in response to previous NATO expansion... ...and so on back to the cold war. That's certainly one theory, yes. Your supporting evidence i...
I see. So when Putin talks about... ...we should ignore what he says, all propaganda? When he says... ...nor even relevant to his motives, just politi...
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