Isaac

So if 'the public' are being fed lies, you know they're lies how? Are you not 'the public'? Are you CIA, MI5 maybe? No wait, it's Illuminati isn't it....

I know. My point was your blatant hypocrisy in pouncing on every suggestion of US complicity, yet letting the many comments to the effect that "this i...

The topic was Putin's likelihood of truly wanting peace - ie his intention. Intent can be no less judged by a public speech as a private one. In fact ...

So of the five experts consulted, three of them focus directly on our complicity and insist that addressing it is crucial to stopping Putin. All of wh...

So "this is all Putin" would be a mistaken argument here. Ignoring the role of the US, Europe, Ukraine... That would be a mistake, yes? And yet when s...

I expect one was in Russian and the other in Ukrainian too. One had more words in it. One was at a slightly higher pitch. One was delivered at a lower...

Wow. I dread to think the effort you'd put in to responding to arguments you do care about.

Right. So what has my accusing you of warmongering got to do with people defending their country?

Are you defending your country?

Both are speech acts. So evidently they can be equated. If they're dissimilar in some way significant to your argument then you'll have to state it. G...

Where have I advised anyone to surrender?

So when Anatol Lieven, veteran reporter on Eastern Europe and senior research fellow at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, says... Or wh...

So warmongering for you too then.

You think your brilliant insight was unique to you? Others saw it also. What's difficult is deciding what to do about it. Maybe mobilise the reserves,...

I've provided examples.

What's he going to do about that?

We seem to be having a language issue. 'Do' refers to some action, not a change in knowledge. If I realise you're Finnish, I haven't done anything. I ...

...I've bolded this time...see if that helps.

So your argument fails then. You've failed to distinguish the harm (to peace talks) of Russian faith-based, fight-against-genocide, propaganda, and Uk...

Yep. And how genuine Zelensky is at those peace talks, can be observed from what he says to the Ukrainian public. How genuine any mediator is at those...

Oh come on! You could say democracy and freedom from tyranny were universals. You're clutching at straws.

I didn't say they needed to agree on the moral judgement, only that such cards need to be in the player's hands. Each side needs to have a 'wrong' the...

What claim do you think you've addressed? Your response was "I don't expect Ukrainians to negotiate". To which 'questionable' claim of mine is that a ...

Peace requires a deal of some sort, and a deal of some sort requires both sides to give, which means both sides accepting some wrong. It doesn't matte...

Right. So why did you involve my post? If you want to have a different conversion, don't do so in response to my posts, it's really confusing. I'm tal...

Both. Wanting a war to exist where there wasn't one before and wanting a war to continue where it might otherwise end are both acts of warmongering.

Warmongering it is then.

Yep. Which is entirely the reason I quoted all the other parties making the same religious invocations. Here's Zelensky, by the way, lest you feel he'...

So you agree with me that all the framing of this war as 'evil Putin vs. noble Ukrainians' is unhelpful.

Yes. How does it influence which strategy we might advocate?

For what purpose? What's the policy implication, what do we do with that knowledge?

Why point that out?

Yes. The point was to show how far @"ssu"'s warmongering extended. We can't advocate negotiation with Putin because he's invoked religion... So we can...

George Bush Tony Blair Joe Biden Donald Rumsfeld ...notice a pattern? But yeah, by all means carry on with your Putin exceptionalism, makes a nice cov...

By 'proper' you mean the one you think is right? Not in the least. The very reason we assume Pizzagate is nonsense is because of the absence of 'rooms...

I'm not entirely sure I understand the question. When someone asks about the use of words, its usually because they find them confusing or incorrect i...

But you've yet to explain what you want anyone to do about this, nor provided any reason at all for your assumption that they don't already know this....

On the oft repeated bullshit about 'supporting Ukraine'... *His research focused on protests and social movements, revolutions, radical right and left...

Yeah, this is the problem in a nutshell. NATO could still fast track Ukraine membership. But it won't because it doesn't want war with Russia, which m...

Imagine you have bully on your block, do people on that block moderate their behaviour to avoid getting punched by him? Of course they do. So converse...

Why would they do that when... ...and... ...? You just seem to want to have your partisan cake and eat it. Perhaps you could clarify. Are biological w...

Yet... Which is it, uneducated blunder or pre-prepared propaganda piece? If you're answering the question "does Ukraine have biological weapons?" in a...

@"StreetlightX" Worse perhaps even that the Hollywood heroism - the heartless selection of who's in the plot and who isn't... In my country, suddenly ...

As ever your point is as clear as mud. The problem with lobbying (I can't believe I'm actually having to explain this) is industries using financial i...

So why...

Oh good. I thought I was going mad for a minute there! This is so true, and also it cements loyalty in this unhealthy way, like there's an active desi...

Manics not big in Australia? Well, there's Aragorn... or am I getting actual events and unrealistic fantasy stories mixed up again, there's been a lot...

Although Zelensky is of course a huge celebrity in the UK already... https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth...

I've just been through this with @"Olivier5". How can support for a particular strategy be support for 'The Ukrainians'? 'The Ukrainians' are not a ho...

There are multiple ways a leader could defend their nation. Arming everyone and fighting to the last man in defiance of any offer from your aggressor ...