No, of course not. As I said, they were a lead-in to the point about personal choices affecting corporate decisions. We can't escape the fact that if ...
There wasn't one (there), you know what rhetoric means, yes? So you're prepared to stand by the assertion that you're uniquely less lazy, careless, eg...
First. That was physically painful to watch. Anyone comparing the two and considering the former to be the one with the 'agenda' has clearly never met...
You're a rhetorical device in the argument, I don't care what you personally do (unless perhaps, you're wanting to make the argument that no-one is hy...
You all diligently buy nothing but certified organic or biodynamic food then I assume? The solution already exists and the benefits are, as pointed ou...
What it does describe is people who have less opportunity or freedom than some. What's interesting about that, from the point of view of the OP is tha...
The list can indeed go on. So the question is, why doesn't it? Are there no oppressed men? Why does the list feel incomplete when it only contains the...
Yes, I think I'd agree (but maybe for different reasons?). Any activity which loses sight of life as a whole becomes unmoored and I don't think that's...
Exactly. It has persuasive force. If we just swap out all the premises for letters and produce a long, non-obvious, logical argument that, say , if A>...
Looking at, sure. I'm trying (but clearly not doing a good job) to draw distinctions between the data which informs a strategy, and the strategy itsel...
For sure, an analysis of the tools of oppression is going to be incomplete without examining patriarchy, but that doesn't always cash out well into an...
Yes, you're right. See our other conversation about rhetoric! Also about the way in which we can't not make judgments about motive, we can't suspend j...
Yes, that is fascinating, I'd never heard that before, but it's similar to an issue I've worked quite closely on in group belief dynamics where some s...
Well. That set the cat among the pigeons... I hope it's not rude to lump you both into the same answer, but you touch on similar themes. Firstly, ther...
No, of course not. I Facebook-chatted a Snapchat question to my Tik-Tok followers, who replied by re-Tweeting an Instagram to my Whatsapp - you know.....
No, nothing. Yes, totally. It's why I think the issue you raise here is so important, and I don't even think it necessary to shy away from commentary ...
Not quite. It's merits are contingent on the interlocutor already agreeing with the point it's supposed to be demonstrating to them. What's the point ...
You're right, I read that in by mistake on account of the line of argument I was on at the time. In that light... I think you've answered your own que...
My post wasn't aimed at you specifically, my apologies if you took it that way. You will, as we all do, have to bear some of the burden of the positio...
I understand where you're coming from, but I think it's important to distinguish the oppressed from potential causes of oppression. The former being a...
Respect seems a simple thing, but sadly notable by its absence these days. But then my generation haven't exactly made a good account of themselves in...
I don't see what you're not getting, it's quite simple. Some men oppress some women, but not all men, and nothing about their being men has anything n...
Sure. So 'good' is whatever your language community use the word for? Like 'apple'? The only reason I'd be wrong to point to a banana and say 'apple' ...
It's not a position I'd support. I was trying to get at how we define 'good' by asking how we'd argue against such a claim. You responded exactly how ...
Then how did you learn what the word meant, if not by listening to other people using it? If you did learn it by listening to other people using it, t...
Yep, I can sympathise with that approach. So would you be happy to support 'what is good is whatever people say is good'? Since that would be undeniab...
Not that I disagree, but when you say "The natural is not the same as the good", what is it that makes the truth of that proposition? I mean, if I mad...
Which part of "we already have the context" did you not understand? Which part of "the attempt to focus attention on just one single aspect of the mil...
Exactly. Your first post after mine... Insulting @"T Clark" by suggesting his seeing no mystery is the result of a lack of wisdom, rather than the car...
Then I can only say that you need to work on your theory of mind. Do you seriously think telling an entire swathe of serious-minded people that their ...
Would it? If I posted, out of the blue, the exchange... A: it's hard to dance with you because you're never focussed on the moment but always on impro...
(... then proceeds to reduce the whole of the move to naturalism to a single 'erroneous' assumption) Come on! If you want respect for the subtlety and...
I see the thread has moved on, and you've received quite a bit of heat for even broaching the subject, so I understand if you just want to leave it, b...
This is also where I am at. Discourse is a game of sorts (not implying a lack of seriousness though), and like any game it has rules. The rules here a...
That's fair. I haven't helped matters by picking the most analytical proposition out there. Let's say instead that the proposition in question were so...
You can't argue anything if your opponents are 'firmly entrenched dogmatists'. I suspect they would disagree and therein lies the problem. As such, I'...
It's quite painfully simple. Someone says "the cat is on the mat" You respond that positions like "the cat is on the mat" are part of a modern trend o...
Great. So an argument for 'real' and 'important' would be really interesting. The fact that other people have previously agreed, but now don't, is not...
I've probably told this story a hundred times now, but sod it, I'm doing it again... We used to have a saying marking papers (derived I think from a c...
Not really. It's something that's let slide far too often in my view. Were it an up front insult, it would be moderated, but this is not less insultin...
How is it not just another appeal to authority in that case? If a person claims idea X has merit because it is held by such-and-such a contemporary th...
Maybe. But recall my stock in trade. The nature of people's 'effete musing', the processes therein, the methods they use, the objectives, their respon...
Yes. I meant politics in the broadest sense. The application of power. I'm simply making the point that the choice of theory as to how accessible 'the...
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