Good attempt. But, like @"Joshs", you've given an excellent account of the unexamined preconceptions of scientists. What you've not answered is why we...
Then isn't that somewhat trivially tautologous? What is it you draw from this conclusion that you found novel? Again, I'm not clear on what the first ...
Interesting, but I don't buy it. You frequently seem to have this dichotomy on how you express these ideas which makes them unconvincing. You'll talk ...
I didn't mean to say nothing was going on. My point was your wording, your description of it, was a foreign to me as mine is (perhaps) to you. It's no...
If... ... then it seems likely to me that when... ...they merely replace it with another culturally constructed presupposition. To assume otherwise re...
You said... In response to... If sll you meant was that yhr boundaries overlap, then I don't see how that forms a criticism. Systems can be defined. T...
It's this move that I'm questioning. It seems odd to say that scientists as a group are blinkered by some presupposition (that is nonetheless clear en...
Right. As I said https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/720016, but you unfortunately ignored, both your position on inaction and your posi...
Indeed. It's an incorrigible habit. I'd have to say neither. See, whilst I find the tenor of your critism on point with regards to cognitive science, ...
And how do rules control your behaviour when you do not have to abide by them if you don't want to? Right. So I shouldn't change my current rules, tha...
Your source claims that systems are open, not that they have no definition. In fact he claims the exact opposite. Nope, that's not what Bertalanffy cl...
Yes. And no, I don't think those words directly refer to some property of experience either. http://www.affective-science.org/pubs/2017/barrett-tce-sc...
I'm going to quibble here too, though with far less warrant. Most neuroscientists and cognitive scientists I've worked with (I can think of only one e...
I don't see how we 'know' this. Certainly not scientifically. All the data we have scientifically seems to show that experiences cannot be said to hav...
No, but, like tetrachromy, it gives us some parameters. Some possibilities are shown to be unlikely given the data we have. One such is the idea that ...
How do we know that? How have we updated our model of what's happening in tetrachromats? By following the evidence from neuroscience. By accommodating...
Because that's the consequence of what we know about how brains work. Either you're bracketing that out entirely (in which case out goes light hitting...
There's that equivocation again though. You can't on the one hand invoke "their eyes and/or brain work differently" and then when I talk about the con...
No, but 'that it broke a window' is. And if it breaks every single window it comes into contact with, then 'that it breaks windows' is a property of t...
No it doesn't. You seeing white and gold dress and me seeing a black and blue is not remotely random, its in fact completely explicable by direct dete...
Yeah, I think we're just going round in circles on this one. If a computer game is scary, then that is a property of the computer game that it scares ...
What would be its intrinsic nature. Why would 'it causes me to respond thus' not be one of its intrinsic properties? Surely this question is the exact...
I don't see the 'better'. The improvement is what? This seems to equivocate over phenomenological and scientific senses. I can't see why you'd accept ...
But it isn't. It's not 'directly' aware if the vibrations in the phenomenological sense of 'aware' (damn terminology problems again). I don't know spi...
Yes, plus a range of others. Something like... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilac_chaser ...or the Gorilla experiment I described earlier (not seei...
Possibly, but then do you not also experience some of the optical illusions, weird filtering, and changes of perspective that the multi-stage scientif...
I have been trying to do so, but clearly with less success than I'd hoped. Is there something specific about my attempts that have failed for you, or ...
Possibly. I've never gotten clear how indirect realism is using the term 'indirect' (nor, for that matter how direct realism is using the term 'direct...
Yes. 's last post seems to sum it up for me. Perception is a staged process, one iteration to the next, as you say, and there seems to be a feeling am...
There is a difference between pointing to potential errors in common sense made by us individuals when we're 'riffing' our own ideas and pointing out ...
Then don't read my posts. You replied to me, not the other way round. You don't need to tell me you're not interested in my posts, just don't read the...
I cited four papers written collectively by eleven experts in neuroscience, cognitive science and computational systems. I thought I was explaining th...
Firstly, how could you possibly know what they meant? Secondly, one is no more 'controlled' by one's own rule than one is governed by it. If you can c...
... I've no interest at all in being lectured with a series of random assertions from nobodies off the internet. Provide arguments, cite sources, or a...
Everyone doing as they please (ultimately) is just not ethics. ethic noun uk /?e??k/ us Social responsibility. a system of accepted rules about behavi...
The point is we already disagree, you and I. So we've only two choices. We arbitrate (come to a binding agreement, someone imposes on someone else), o...
Well, it's not just time. Remembering something is a completely different brain process to the original inference and introduces several opportunities...
Because the alternative is that everyone just does whatever they want. Again, if you prefer that system, that's your deal, but it just not what morali...
Yes they are. They're making an assumption that all the people who would benefit from the prospective person should suffer. They're deciding on behalf...
So, each person does exactly what they wish. Doing exactly what you want is not ethics, not by any definition at all. The only alternative is that som...
Nonsense. People's own private objectives are not ethics, it's just subjective. If I want a big car it's not ethics to get me one. That's exactly what...
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