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Hard to keep up with your non seqs sometimes. We were talking about epistemic standards by which to judge whether the source of an reported religious ...
November 07, 2016 at 23:30
Sure. But neither do we know that the belief is true in any sense other than that it works. Thus, all we need (and imo all we acrually have access to)...
November 07, 2016 at 22:58
Yes, it's a judgment. And judgments are based on... drum roll... some standard or other. In one case you judged according to a naturalistic standard, ...
November 07, 2016 at 22:14
The limits of science are the limits of the human mind on a good day. The limits of stupidity, dysfunction, and ignorance, on the other hand, are the ...
November 07, 2016 at 17:02
Creationists readily recognize the conflict between their explanations and evolution. (And it is they, not scientists, who make much public noise abou...
November 07, 2016 at 15:50
This reasoning strikes me as an appeal to consequences. Sure, our beliefs have consequences, sometimes consequences that are widely judged to be posit...
November 07, 2016 at 14:21
Seems to me that if it is not logically possible to subscribe to both explanations, then they are in conflict. Either one subscribes to the explanatio...
November 07, 2016 at 13:59
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, ain't it, Wayfarer? I'd like to mention, too, that though we are attracted to and readily influenced by charismatic p...
November 07, 2016 at 13:26
So you subscribe to some hypothesis that's unverifiable, unfalsifiable, untestable, and offers no independebtly confirmable predictions--and provides ...
November 07, 2016 at 04:54
If there are factors or causes in human lives that science can't explain, even in principle, then what else is there besides (1) they remain unexplain...
November 07, 2016 at 03:56
If naturalistic explanations cannot explain something, then what else is there besides (1) it goes unexplained, or (2) we subscribe to some hypothesis...
November 07, 2016 at 02:42
OR--we can stick to analyzing the propositional content of what people say, and challenge it with counterarguments if we disagree with them.
November 07, 2016 at 01:48
Exactly. See "On Bullshit" by (Princeton? Professor) Harry Frankfurt.
November 07, 2016 at 00:27
Democracy in a dysfunctional, broken society is a Shakespearean tragedy--sooner or later the stage will be littered with bodies.
November 06, 2016 at 23:56
Obviously a creation of the GOP, FOX News, and wingnut talk radio.
November 06, 2016 at 23:35
Trump is the invasive species weed that blossomed in the decades of manure the party shoveled to its "base."
November 06, 2016 at 23:27
And Republicans now have to contend with the "base" they've been playing for suckers for decades.
November 06, 2016 at 21:19
An excellent insight.
November 06, 2016 at 20:02
Well, we're all willing to compromise to a point. That's what makes politics work--when it works.
November 06, 2016 at 19:58
Yes.
November 06, 2016 at 19:42
What I find blatantly hippocritical, though, is their facile rationalizations for excusing all his behavior that blatantly violates so many of thei ot...
November 06, 2016 at 19:40
Not at all.
November 06, 2016 at 19:33
Foe the vast majority of tens of millions of evangelicals, abortion is the make or break issue. It trumps all the rest of their moral judgments combin...
November 06, 2016 at 18:57
So, the specific issue I addressed was Arkady's challenge to Eggcart's assertion that "The Planned Parenthood kerfuffle has died down considerably sin...
November 06, 2016 at 14:57
Conflict between science and religious fundamentalism arises over conflicting explanations for certain phenomena--such as species, in the current ID v...
November 06, 2016 at 14:34
But Conservative Christians comprise a very large and very powerful percentage of conservatives in general.
November 06, 2016 at 13:55
No, Arkady is right. Defunding Planned Parenthood continues to be a primary political goal of conservative Christians. And although the PP policy on a...
November 06, 2016 at 13:34
Amen. And the irony of deceptive and misleading info being continually generated by religious conservatives makes my head hurt.
November 06, 2016 at 02:08
Exactly. Neither a "me" nor "I."
November 06, 2016 at 02:01
You better crank up your karma, dukkha.
November 06, 2016 at 01:19
What is this "me" and "I" notion you keep mentioning?
November 06, 2016 at 00:19
Americans are, perhaps, more individualistic, more inclined to a git-er-done attitude and self-reliance (improvise-adapt-overcome), anti-intellectual,...
November 05, 2016 at 22:23
Sure, we take the person's word for it that he had what he believes to have been a religious experience. Perhaps idealized, but I think the vast major...
November 05, 2016 at 18:20
I think the distinction you're making between argument and hypothesis here is a red herring. A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for phenomena. For...
November 05, 2016 at 17:01
Well, I may well be mistaken. Can you explain?
November 05, 2016 at 15:42
The argument from design, including the ID incarnation, and the cosmological argument allege to explain empirically observable phenomena, but do not t...
November 05, 2016 at 15:39
In order to be epistemically consistent, a scientist's religious beliefs would have to satisfy the same criteria he requires his science claims to sat...
November 05, 2016 at 14:32
Excellent. People commonly come to the logically fallacious conclusion that if one's view of science is not that it is about the Real Truth, it's, the...
November 05, 2016 at 14:06
Seems to me that one could substitute the term "religion" for "science" here, and it would fit quite seamlessly--including "the quirky crazy fucks mos...
November 05, 2016 at 13:49
The dispute in this thread is not about people's experiences, it's about the propositional claims--such as the existence and action of a supernatural ...
November 05, 2016 at 13:44
True that.
November 05, 2016 at 13:18
Of course, it is possible to be a religious believer and a scientist. The question is: Is it epistemically consistent to be a believer and a scientist...
November 05, 2016 at 04:41
What do you think "explain" entails beyond reliable and predictive descriptions of observed regularities and properties and interactions?
November 05, 2016 at 03:03
I am quite sure that at least Harris, whom I've heard speak to the issue, and the others are not so benighted as not to understand that science theori...
November 05, 2016 at 02:32
This does not even address the question I asked in response to your assertion that Dawkins et al are "making false claims that the empirical evidence ...
November 05, 2016 at 01:02
Again I refer you to the context in the U.S., where evolution is a hot-button political issue in which creationists are numerous, sometimes the majori...
November 05, 2016 at 00:54
Are you saying that the empirical evidence (fom biology, chemistry, physics, genetics, geology, climate science, oceanography, radioactive dating, pal...
November 04, 2016 at 14:37
For the record, I find the New Atheist debates, with the possible exception of Sam Harris, quite off-putting, even obnoxious, discourteous, and disres...
November 04, 2016 at 02:22
Ah, a middle path. As in "The New Atheists Are a Bloody Disaster" and "the decline in Americans' general critical thinking ability is partly because o...
November 04, 2016 at 01:58
Indeed. What the believers in the pews actually reveal they believe is notoriously at odds with the theologians. One fascinating book about this is "T...
November 04, 2016 at 01:42