Wittgenstein, the Man himself? :lol: Knowledge of mathematics and science have been somewhat shaken lately. It cannot be a complete interpretation tho...
Yes, if the "limits of my language are the limits of my world", then solipsism seems inescapable. Have you watched the series "Legion"? https://www.im...
If for God, solipsism and realism are one and the same, then I find it odd that Wittgenstein would say this in the Tractatus, in the part where God is...
yes of course, God is obviously inexpressible anyway, just because we talk about God, doesnt mean we express something meaningful. But do you think th...
Well, if God started doubting, then we would be fucked, wouldn't we? But I was thinking in terms of the Tractatus, where Wittgenstein says that in sol...
Wallowing was a poor choice of wording, as it generally does not convey what I was trying to say. I thought twice about putting it here, but at the en...
(I'm back, wow time flies, I didn't realise that 2 weeks have passed!) But what about the aforementioned act, what could that be, if it is not connect...
So if God's will is not concerned or connected with happenings in the world, and since whatever happens in the world is just something contingent and ...
So in other words, for Wittgenstein, without God, there is no meaning, there cannot be one, the world is meaningless without God. No God = no meaning,...
From all the above, I understand that Wittgenstein equates or rather links the meaning of life to God (the meaning of life/world, we can call God), an...
Yes, I am sorry for wronging you, but you were right that sometimes it was a bit of both. Anyway, I don't think that in order to understand these thin...
Yes I did, I am no angel myself. Nevertheless, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, if you remember, whereas you did not. A lot has changed since, and...
Is this what I've been struggling to do? Because I was under the impression this whole time that we were working as a team, trying to figure out the t...
Well, it is such a common thing that discussions regarding ethics lead to the most violent of clashes, that would make anyone wonder what ethics is re...
You are so nice! :) You should have been a teacher or something similar, if you are not already, that is. But your approach to discourse resembles ver...
I don't think it is just my assumption. I mean, in our time and in Wittgenstein's time, there is a vast amount of ethical propositions before me and h...
Yes, this is the conclusion, but we start our investigation assuming there are. Yes I suppose you could say that. Why can you not say that ethical pro...
Yes, because there is something about them that bugs me. In factual propositions, facts can be represented - their content, but not the representation...
Can't do that, since the ethical is treated differently: ethical propositions are not like factual propositions where we can talk about the facts but ...
Yes, in the Tractatus it was put forward that all propositions have the same form, however this was abandoned later on. Anyway, what both houses and c...
Of course not, but rather if black and white are colours, then they must have something in common, they must share a connection, so they are essential...
Right, leave everything to me then! :) If it looks like a sermon, acts like one, then it is what it is. Copleston was dragged because I think he expre...
Well for one I very much doubt that all the above are things that one knows. I said previously what I think W. meant by the world of the happy man, an...
And what was this then? Something that someone just knows but cannot put into words? I am asking, because it looked like a sermon to me, and I wouldn'...
Right, so number 1 is that, whether for W. meaning and value are actually the same, whether they are essentially the same - same same but different li...
So you are saying that 'sense' in 4.022/4.031 and 'sense' in 6.41 mean different things? But yes, because I cannot see how the "sense of the world" wo...
Alright, can you bring an example that clearly shows this distinction? So if that is the case, combined with the fact that W. was not happy in his lif...
I'm back, hehe! So let us conclude this if you like. First of all, I think your reading of the Tractatus sees the transcedental ethics as providing th...
But the fact is certainly related to the act. So if he cannot see the immorality in the facts themselves, then how can he see it in the act? Is it onl...
But anyway Wittgenstein must have had a rather peculiar view of ethics and morality in general. It struck me as odd when I read his lecture where he e...
haha, well done Fooloso4, you have a sense of humour after all! The word "meaning" can have different meanings. We use it differently when we say "the...
No, I meant ethics as the transcendental: if it was employed as a means to see the world aright, then what is its use after this? I think he uses this...
So for the man that finally understands Wittgenstein, it wasn't ethics/the ethical that was transcended, but rather propositions about it: the ethical...
But when he writes that: "he who understands me finally recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them, over them. (He mu...
He gives no meaning to "transcendental", so anyone can explain it how he sees fit. One can take Kant's meaning of transcendental, for which by the way...
Ethics still of course exists, in a sense, or rather not in a sense, it actually exists, for those that are still on the bottom of the ladder or climb...
Nope, wrong again. And well, no matter how many times a mistake is repeated, it still remains a mistake won't you all agree now? The only thing that a...
no shit Einstein! hahah down in the deathly hallows there's a man that wallows oh what a pity to be in a pit most shallow I say spit boy! and never sw...
You know, it's funny, Amity, that you only see my "lows" and personal false allegations but somehow manage to turn a blind eye to Fooloso4's lows and ...
Accuse is a bit harsh for a choice of words, but yes, I am saying that you don't understand him. "should seem to have" is not the same as "has", I won...
Ah so experiential truths, like the truth of what vanilla ice cream tastes like (mundane), the truth of me having a toothache, the truth of feeling sa...
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