At the homeless shelter, the number one rule is to keep your distance. The second rule is to attempt to defuse the problem. Hopefully, this begins bef...
Is it wrong to spend a lot on a gift because the gift giver wants the receiver to benefit from the gift? Why spend all that money if the receiver is n...
It is not a matter of the gift giver being loved. It is a matter of the person who receives the gift getting the benefit of the gift or not. If the re...
This morning I am in hell. I have been working at a temporary shelter for homeless people. We have organized churches to open their doors on freezing ...
I very much like the notion that it is our duty to develop our talents. That works well with the idealism of democracy, as a social, economic and poli...
I do not understand? You seem to be saying my thinking is, but I think it may be your thinking that is wrong. When someone gives you a gift what is im...
The Egyptians had a trinity of the soul not a trinity of god. One part of our soul dies with our body and another is judged and may or may not go on t...
I have a Christian friend and she used to drive me and her family crazy. She seems to realize now that her behavior of trying to save us was a relatio...
Science tells us, people with bad hearts who feel loved live longer than people with bad hearts who don't feel valued and I don't think that considera...
If a moral is a matter of cause and effect, we can know the effect of not appreciating what we are given or at least assuring the gift giver that we a...
Okay for the sake of argument I will take the opposing side and say using the gift should be a high priority. Sure it can be a pain in the neck to do ...
That is good judgment of what? At age 72 I am amazed by how much my judgment has changed and it is being generous to not set the voting age at 50 year...
For a long time in Christianity, it was assumed only a handful of people were the chosen people who would experience heaven. Like the Egyptians may ha...
Well, I think I agree with what you said, up to- us having a notion of what a leader can do, and arguing that point would make this a political thread...
I have a good and mature Christian friend who thinks Trump is a good father to our country. The Evangelist Christians have a very different opinion of...
? :chin: What part of your post is in agreement with science? "I dont think a brain needs to be fully developed in order for a person to have good jud...
Do you think science has value? What are the grounds for your disagreement with the science? This is a really hard debate to have because I remember h...
I am very sure Trump is the result of the 1958 National Defense Education Act that is also responsible for our reactionary politics in general and Con...
Military service would necessitate a person be voting age. The voting age was lowered because of the protest of the Vietnam war. It was argued it is w...
Oh you are old enough to be amazed by what happens to our thinking in our later years. Isn't it awesome! I am sure the age of Enlightenment was in par...
I appreciate your approval of investigating religious truth. I have loved the investigation since I was 8 years old, that age when our brains mature e...
If you want science, try this site "The rational part of a teen's brain isn't fully developed and won't be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent researc...
I very much agree with you and like the quotes you used. Christianity had a terrible time when it as translated from Greek to Roman thought. Latin wor...
It was the Greeks who wrote the first Christian bible and Greeks held a concept of Hades. Psychologically, Hades is a place we must all go for meaning...
"in fact Plato argued extensively that democracy is the second worst regime claiming that democratic societies are doomed to sink in anarchy and corru...
"Democracy does however defend the rights of the weak, encourage individualism and learning, and let the common man decide their own destiny. Freedom ...
Did I say something wrong? I listed the changes brought in by the 1958 National Defense Education Act that replaced liberal education and there is no ...
"I think the one of the main aspects of this discussion is also how moral values happen to be what they are, how they are created and by whom." You ar...
:grin: I hope I am not too much of a pain in the ass to all of you. I agree there are extremists everywhere and that secular education has radically c...
I am not so sure we want to get too far from nature when making moral judgments? As I understand, a moral it is a matter of cause and effect. I would ...
Are you speaking of a society where women can be stoned to death as it is explained in the Christian Bible, and was commonly practiced throughout the ...
It is said, we punish people so others will fear the punishment and avoid the wrong. By the way, I think the present judgment is terrible, but for the...
Bitter Crank.... "More damaging to the classic liberal arts than retrenchment, in my opinion, has been the perverse corruption of postmodernism, and i...
The technology of that site is beyond me. I attempted to download the book on education, but that didn't seem to be working for me. I attempted to cop...
"What we have in the United States is a deceptive slow-motion fascism. What happened in Europe was a high-speed fascism that developed over the course...
Why read you instead of Illich? Because I am drowning in books that I haven't read yet, but now I really want to know what Illich has to say. You seri...
"Morality and the concept of good and evil only seem to emerge as a social response. Moral considerations to one's family are the most simple." :gasp:...
Killing is not wrong when it is done to maintain a moral order. I like the Aztec game plan. You screw up, you become a slave. You screw up again, you ...
"It's frustrating when you're the lone loon who disagrees with something, though." Tell me about it. I am always regretting my inability to keep my mo...
"The fantasy, the imagination, rides on top of this. Even love, romance, etc. are all secondary to the needs of the real, which I stated earlier seem ...
I think you speak of liberty. We defend our liberty by obeying the laws even when do not like them, but it is also our responsibility to argue for a c...
Here is my evidence that if we believe we are good thinkers and conscious of our thoughts, we are screwed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVQJdIrDJ0...
Van Illich was a Croatian-Austrian philosopher, Roman Catholic priest, and critic of the institutions of modern Western culture. That might be an inte...
"when we focus on what we see with the eyes emotions are seen as not fundamental, but we would get a very different picture by focusing on emotions fi...
" Unless you're saying that's supposed to have something to do with the notion of unconscious mental content". I do not totally understand how forums ...
Okay if I understand Terrapin Station correctly he wants me to address the issue of self-interest versus group interest with you. Do we have agreement...
It is about science. Science improves our understanding, and the issue with you came up when you said you do not agree with what I said about all the ...
"I did not present the idea that we are driven by pleasure/pain as a theory, just a self evident truth or axiom." Hum, how often do you exercise and d...
:yikes: you didn't say "Obviously I don't agree with that."? Yes, it is akin to mental phenomena. Science has provided a clear explanation of that. Wh...
What you said makes no sense to me, because it had nothing to do with science, but maybe we can move towards science by examining why humans are patri...
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