Athena

Okay if you want to use the term "money" instead of "king", we can discuss the importance of morals to any economy. Being able to trust each other and...

This morning I am freaking out about the failure of all our institutions and the failure of education to prepare us for a democracy that is rule by re...

I know what I have experienced and once again I wish you would be more open-minded. I am not sure why I had those experiences so I like to talk about ...

I don't think so. My vacuum cleaner and washing machine are very helpful and so is my computer, but they are machines, not organic, living and feeling...

I want to take all the evidence seriously and I would not say it is fully sourced in the brain. The feeling of being watched is in the body and the br...

Seriously?! Have you read Jose' Arguelles's book "The Mayan Factor" It is all about the Mayan understanding of morphic resonance and our cosmic connec...

Yes, I do not think merging the human brain with a future cybernetic body is a good idea. Our brains are limited and I think we need to understand the...

I am posting now so it is easy to find this thread when I return. Tomorrow I will join my sister's protest at the Oregon State capitol. She needs some...

Yes, it is the same guy. I want to talk about that in the thread for that subject but not this thread. I have a preference for life on this earth bein...

Artificially measuring the pressure of a touch may be possible but that is not equal to an emotional feeling. Right now even the sensation of touch re...

Yes, and that is so for us because we are humans. It can not be so for AI because AI can not have emotional responses to life. I think we are being tr...

I am back. I really wish such darn emotions did not hijack my sanity! I have logic in my brain and what I just went through was not logical! It was em...

If you want us to believe you know it all, you should read the links before making your arguments. That may be so but the feeling is still in the body...

I can not find a decent link with all the clutter like this one. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/microsoft-shuts-down-ai-chatbot-after-it-turned-into-rac...

If your brother-in-law was awake during surgery he had a regional anesthetic, not a general anesthesia that makes a person unconscious. His brain was ...

If there is no organic body to feel and give feedback to thoughts generated as chatGBT generates thoughts, it is not equal to what happens in the huma...

This is the most interesting question. A man-made joint or pig value in my heart would not change who I am. Messing with my brain in a way that change...

If those are not thoughts, how did they become part of AI and why have you asked us to think about those words? That same AI had to be shut down becau...

You didn't ask this of me but it is in line with the questions you did ask me. Our feelings are in our body and I don't think I like life without a fe...

That reply is fascinating to me. Have you experienced grief? I have heard that men change in a positive way when they experience grief. The Greek gods...

I like all your statements and this one pushes my buttons and puts me on my soup box to lecture about the value of democracy! Many ancient people, not...

Very nicely said. I have wondered if what is happening to my brain, the increased awareness of perspective, and things that work and things that lead ...

I am comforted by that thought. However, the second one about technology leading to people being more concerned about what is external to them than kn...

Well, your last line explains the feedback system. The feelings are in the body. However, more explanation of that may be helpful, since I already rep...

I should not have mentioned the economic problem because that is a different subject. My point is I see such matters differently than when I was young...

The way I see philosophy it is a tool because philosophers have asked questions I never thought of asking and in that way it teaches us to ask questio...

Those are very nice thoughts but also dangerous because they ignore our dark side. They ignore our gun culture and parents buying their sons guns and ...

:lol: When the dinosaurs walked the earth and I was in high school, I wrote a story about a woman who wanted to die because everyone she cared about w...

The light of the light bulb is the result of electricity. Without electricity, there would be no light. Without the light bulb, there would be no ligh...

Of what use will ASI be? It has nothing that will ever qualify it for good human judgment. No human experience and no feelings. To have feelings, ther...

I ask question so people think about the answers. The Greeks asked about the impossible and dared to answer the questions. How does this make Anne Sul...

What would motivate anyone to help the blind? How is it possible to know how to help a blind person? Hellen Keller could not see or hear, and a woman ...

I think you have knowing facts confused with knowledge. A prisoner I corresponded with captured the difference between knowing facts and knowledge. "Y...

Under what conditions is this true? I grew up in L.A. California and took people being killed for granted, like people in Oregon take rain for granted...

I do not believe that is enough food to feed everyone, nor is it practical to send produce to poor nations that can not pay for the labor and transpor...

That is not at all what we learn from history. Starvation was common and it brought civilizations down. This would not be so without modern farming pr...

Overpopulation. We have created enough abundance to imagine feeding the whole world and we have ignored limits. The terrible reality is the more we fe...

How about the law of survival of the fittest? We can bring out the best in each other or the worst. I think if it were possible to meet all of a perso...

I will check it out. Thank you.

Your comment sent me looking for more information and I am thrilled with this site https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2010/2010.12.59/ The author of the review...

:lol: Yes I remember something about Athenians believing their heroes are chosen by the gods, and not all of the chosen have the arete to live up to t...

Wow, I really enjoyed that and bookmarked it so I can return to it. I have a lot of thinking to do with that information. Thank you.

When were people closer to truth? What truth? What if our culture blinds us to truth because our culture does do not give us the perspective we need t...

Oh darn, I was hoping for a different discussion. But I suspect it is unrealistic to hope for the discussion I want.

Nature provides oxygen, water, and some food but it takes human effort to get that water and food. Just meeting all of the people's needs violates the...

I think I do not know enough of your thought to understand it. Why is anything made? There are two ways to have social control, culture or authority o...

If they do not they will manifest Armageddon. "The term Armageddon has often been used by Protestant fundamentalists to refer to an impending cataclys...

I am very hesitant to go over my rant about replacing liberal education with education for technology but I think many of our problems are directly re...

Wisdom starts with "I do not know." Deism could be right. There may be a universal god. The religious problem is not the notion of a universal god, bu...

That is a big responsibility. How might we act on it and manifest a desirable reality? There is nothing simple about that. Many ancients thought we we...