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Indeed. Assuming we actually want to discuss the same thing, of course. These are all excellent questions to begin an enquiry into consciousness. :up:

No, he's RogueAI. I'm bert1 and you are Harry Hindu.

I'm not sure how my comment relates to kk's.

It is if the scientist has the same definition/concept as the non-scientist. This definition: "Consciousness is subjective experience — ‘what it is li...

I think we've hit a conceptual wall. The trouble with the concept of consciousness is that consciousness is only knowable by a kind of introspective r...

Thanks for that. Do you think philosophers and scientists have much to say to each other? When scientists investigate well-defined observable function...

And these are presumably measurable in some way? If so, they would need to be functionally defined. You input something into the person, look at the o...

Do you have a definition in mind when discussing consciousness? When you discuss consciousness, what is it you are discussing?

Another way to bring out the issue is to ask "Why can't all that functional stuff happen without consciousness? What is it about that function that ne...

I think the functionalist has to define 'consciousness' in such a way that a function can constitute it. For example, X is conscious if and only if X ...

Lets see how shit we can be

Well there's no way I'm going to scroll up. And what's more I'm going to talk about not scrolling up.

Oh well that settles it then

Because a field is a single partless place extended in space. So it's a candidate for the 'one' part of the many-in-one nature of experience.

If I'm going to be a bully and a twat, I'd rather do it alone.

He won't tell you. Even though it just involves writing one sentence. If he does write a sentence, it will have bold, italic, underline, quotation mar...

I love passive aggressive conversations. I'm ripping my dick off I love them so much.

You can drive a house, because houses are like cars. They both have windows.

You explain why it is

That's interesting. Do you have a link to such a questionnaire? I'd be interested to have a go myself and see what I come out as.

Sure, I was just wondering who you are talking about, and that helps. No doubt you are right that it happens. How many times doesn't it happen, though...

I consider myself broadly left wing. Do you think that I cancel and ostracise people?

Let me try! Ok, here we go: social + ism = socialism! community + ism = communityism! Wow! cool!

:up:

Yes that seems logical to me. Instinctively I have some sympathy with NOS on this. I love post apocalyptic stories and dramas that involve drastic pop...

A healthy state is not all powerful. Or even a half-healthy state. High taxation in a democracy generally goes with high accountability of the state t...

Any thread with that as its subject should probably be deleted. Not just because it is offensive but because it is ludicrous. If there were some kind ...

The Bible is short on actual metaphysics generally I think. Except maybe John a tiny bit, or Genesis if you want to get very interpretative. Even then...

Well, maybe. Who knows. You could come up with something along the lines of, as the logos, the formal aspect of reality, the way things are, Jesus is ...

Agreed! Not magically, but democratically, well, yes, unfortunately. I'd disagree, but that's just tough for me, as democracy is the least bad way of ...

:) I grew up in 1980s Britain. Thatcher was everyone's bossy mum back then.

This. As well as philosophy and reason, I'm not willing to dismiss felt intuitions. Introspection is often an unreliable guide to they way things are,...

OK, so a dictatorship with these values. What if the dictator changes her mind?

Yes, because it's the least bad system. And we have to have a system, because there are lots of us in a small space.

Zenny, are you OK? Benkei is famously from Norway. Well one of those hurdy flurdy countries anyway.

Easier, yes. Easy, no.

Great stuff from Pfhorrest. Forum quality overall just shot up.

That's interesting. For some, loyalty to friends and loved ones really does trump wider considerations, for others it doesn't. And some are conflicted...

Oh, fair enough. They both must have written something by the same title. Chalmers wrote a (very good IMO) paper Consciousness and its Place in Nature...

The first is Galen Strawson, the second I think is Chalmers. Chalmers wasn't a panpsychist last time I looked, but he's open to it. I thought Strawson...

I accept the force of this intuition. I do think that everything is conscious, and I do not think that the concept of consciousness admits of degree. ...

Would you like me to explain it more fully?

No serious panpsychist would ever assert that emergence in general is impossible. Of course all kind of properties are emergent, indeed the majority o...

It's identity not consciousness that is lost.

A lot depends on whether Pfhorrest is posting or not.

One hopes, things like evidence, coherence, inference to the best explanation, cui bono considerations, etc. By following rational principles I guess....

Yes. I agree with this as well. I dunno. It is possible to ignore the bollocks. And sometimes it turns out not to be complete bollocks after all, and ...

Yeah. I think I agree with you. But I'm not sure. Social media is an echo-chamber. That's OK to an extent. But I also want to be exposed to not-me. So...

No! You were right the first time. I was just seeing how far I could troll Apollodorus. I was starting to think he might have been counter-trolling me...

*shrug* You can mock all you want, it doesn't change the facts.