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How come? Isn't a subject being forced to do something against their will through physical force? It's violence, and, like all violence, unethical.
January 07, 2022 at 13:01
Oh sure, in that case it'd be violence. One just would not be aware that they're commiting it - carelessness coupled with ignorance causes much as suf...
January 07, 2022 at 12:12
That's not what I said. You asked whether something would still be considered violence if physical force was applied in accordance to the would-be vic...
January 07, 2022 at 08:22
To me those two cannot be seperated. That which is Good or right must be based on truth. That which is wrong must be based on falsehoods or delusions....
January 06, 2022 at 13:33
Assuming there's no third-party whose will is going to be violated, yes. It is not violence.
January 06, 2022 at 11:26
We're not living in a world with some violence. For one, only a few decades ago, and perhaps still today, every being on Earth was being threatened wi...
January 06, 2022 at 11:24
I'm unsure what you're getting at, but if the point you're making is that they're not in control of their actions and desires play no role, then I'd s...
January 06, 2022 at 10:18
Well, I'd assume they're lying (or equally likely, unaware of what drives them). If they had no interest in the reaction of the victim, and all they w...
January 06, 2022 at 09:52
Basing the question of whose opinions matter on yet more opinions isn't going to help. I disagree. What was unethical 1,000 years ago is unethical now...
January 06, 2022 at 09:15
Yes, the stabber must have some desire to stab, no? They must enjoy to inflict pain on others, the reaction of the victim is what gives them pleasure ...
January 05, 2022 at 22:04
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January 05, 2022 at 21:41
I find neither are a good basis for ethics. Majority opinions have been terribly wrong in their collective judgement countless times. Principle: a fun...
January 05, 2022 at 21:36
Depends on one's definition of violence. Mine is: to (attempt to) make another act in accordance to one's desires through the use of physical force. A...
January 05, 2022 at 21:22
We're discussing the means (violence) and not the ends (motivations). I don't think ends can justify means, so one's motivations for choosing violence...
January 05, 2022 at 17:52
Yes.
January 05, 2022 at 16:55
If one believes violence can turn into a right whenever it suits one's desires, then we've entered the typical slippery slope that ends at "might make...
January 05, 2022 at 16:50
Self-preservation is a futile endeavor, and to sacrifice one's spiritual integrity for it is not an act worth celebrating, but such is my view. I'll y...
January 05, 2022 at 16:35
Violence is categorically unethical. While in some cases its use may be understandable, that does not change its nature, namely to force someone to ac...
January 05, 2022 at 16:20
If we imagine two worlds, one in which corporations are free to expand and exploit, and one in which they are curtailed by powerful governments, we wi...
December 29, 2021 at 08:43
In the case of personal happiness I suppose it's up to the individual themselves to navigate their way through apparent contradictions.
December 28, 2021 at 16:18
I struggle to think of ways one could find inner peace without some form of truth-seeking. To live in ignorance and delusion will sooner or later caus...
December 28, 2021 at 11:59
When I can't get my way the answer is always more force, more mandates, to cede more rights to governments. So we can all be safe. My love for power a...
December 26, 2021 at 18:28
It was, is and always will be authoritarianism - the quintessential ingredient for the worst of mankind's collective behaviors: repression, tyranny, w...
December 23, 2021 at 08:11
Ought we associate with people who keep dragging out the dead horse of organized religion to use as a punching bag to further our philosophical "enlig...
December 22, 2021 at 10:22
Juck.
December 21, 2021 at 07:13
One person chooses to go vegan, another may visit lonely elders in nursing homes, and yet another donates money to the homeless, etc. What makes one b...
December 20, 2021 at 21:06
Unfortunate that such an interesting discussion had to end with accusations.
December 17, 2021 at 07:57
That is an expansive topic, and I don't think it is constructive to branch out our discussion even further. Lets keep this subject for when we have re...
December 16, 2021 at 16:36
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December 16, 2021 at 07:46
Do my eyes deceive me? Is the Philosophy Forum finally catching up to the fact that everything about this crisis reeks?
December 15, 2021 at 10:15
That depends on the outcome. It could be neutral, I suppose. By performing an action that involves another person, we must be able to foresee the cons...
December 14, 2021 at 13:57
Taking a risk implies one lacks the wisdom and/or power to produce the intended effect and must rely on luck. It cannot be a moral act, thus there's n...
December 14, 2021 at 11:37
If we take justice to mean what I said it meant: actions that have the well-being of the subject at heart (this is too simple, but it will suffice for...
December 10, 2021 at 09:59
The question has now become, what constitutes a moral act. This is my idea about that: 1. The intention of the act must be just. What constitutes just...
December 09, 2021 at 11:49
Depends on what you mean with anti-natalist. I'm not campaigning for people not to have children. I am however seriously considering the possibility t...
December 08, 2021 at 07:49
The question of whether it was permissable lies solely with whether one was able to accurately determine the desires of the subject. If one did, it wa...
December 07, 2021 at 15:00
No, not undoubtedly. As I tried to make clear, there must be a conflict of desires or the impression thereof to make it an imposition. In this example...
December 07, 2021 at 13:20
In case it wasn't clear, the fact that one has to use force to make someone act in accordance with one's desires generally implies conflicting desires...
December 07, 2021 at 11:33
And the real answer is, I don't know. However, one could use their judgement to assume that Jeff would want one to press the button to pinch him and s...
December 07, 2021 at 11:29
In practice, it more often translates into discarding ideas that when scrutinized appear unfeasible. Indeed. However, because one will not impose thei...
December 07, 2021 at 09:38
Ideas can approximate reality to varying degrees, and the closer they approximate reality, the "better" (for the lack of a better term) they are. Obvi...
December 05, 2021 at 09:01
That dilemma is not all that relevant to me. Whether it's anarchy or oppression, it's the result of the collective behavior of individuals. I can't an...
December 05, 2021 at 07:27
I would say so. Regulations, when broken, are met with punishments. In the case of state law, when one resists these punishments because, for example,...
December 04, 2021 at 20:10
Did I point that out? I don't think impositions made by the rulers or electorates of democracies are justified.
December 04, 2021 at 19:52
One cannot seperate these things, even if one wanted to. One never experiences the external world directly - everything goes through the mind. I state...
December 04, 2021 at 19:51
That will be my last extension of grace.
December 04, 2021 at 17:49
Read my whole posts, James. :sad:
December 04, 2021 at 17:28
All the way! An imposition is the use of force to make an individual act in accordance to one's desires. Force can be physical, it can be verbal, it c...
December 04, 2021 at 16:52
I explained already: _______________________ Can many people believe the same thing? Sure. I don't see how that is particularly relevant, though. My v...
December 04, 2021 at 15:21
The example features two fools. The fact that one of the fools wisens up, does not cure the other of their foolishness.
December 04, 2021 at 08:35