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I don't know man. You're the activist not me.

I already pointed out that a subject has a mental life while an object doesn't. Aside from that what is the difference?

I don't know. Discover a new source of energy so efficient people can't ignore it?

The problem with this line of thinking is that the other guy can just say "No I don't" and call you a pessimist. That's why we both agreed to stay as ...

I think the duality is mostly the result of confusion. Try to define "object". Now try to define "subject". I find that I can't actually find a differ...

Like, I agree with you, but posting about it here does absolutely nothing

No? Both the OP and the last post don't recognize the difference as legitimate Good point. I'll point that out if I talk to him again

?????? From the OP. That's what I've been saying all along.

Did you just completely ignore my point? What is an "action" and what is an "inaction" depend on each other. So if I define "abstaining" (not having c...

Yes. That's what I'm saying. Your argument (1-5) is this part: Where is this "internal inconsistency" or "something wrong" you keep hinting at. Sideno...

Yea I know. I got what you were saying From my stance: Whether or not you do is completely neutral. You didn't freeze him, you don't have to save him.

Exactly what he asked for when I presented the hypothetical actually

Sorry but this sounds like pure handwaving to me. Let's look at an example: You locked 200 people evenly in two different rooms. You have a button. If...

Yes, I never claimed it was the former First off, not my argument but ok Secondly, Yes that's what it amounts to (just confirming) All this shows is t...

That IS one solution yes That's called natalism This isn't a matter of happiness though. If those people don't get saved they will be hurt (killed). S...

Yes that's something we agreed upon beforehand. He was trying to make a case for natalism using negative ethics That makes it rather uninteresting tho...

Could you elaborate. I just don't get what you're saying. Where did entitled to someone else's suffering come from?

I agree with everything you just said, though I don't think bystanders can ever be morally responsible for something. These aren't my ideas.

Methinks you're wrong

And how in the world did you "cacluclate" what the most straight-forward cause is? This is the technically correct verion though (assuming those are t...

I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean. All I'm saying is: If you cause comparable suffering whether or not you have children then there ...

I had a similar thought in my OP. I accepted that inaction is just as much an action as anything you can do but then said that in order to be RESPONSI...

Inaction IS an action. Inaction is: Not doing X but doing Y instead, where X is the action in question. So inaction is just doing Y. Inaction is just ...

How is it incapable for making the case for natalism? Natalism doesn't mean "You should have kids" it means "You may have kids". If you establish that...

Yup I made that case. But that doesn't actually accomplish anything. All that has been established now is that whether or not you have a child, you ca...

That's precisely the question here. I don't think this is as clear as you think it is. Let me define the word "abandon" as "not save a drowning person...

That's exactly the debate we were having but what exactly does it mean to "do nothing". If you see a drowning man and you don't save him have you "don...

No, being at least one is a property of everything (in this universe) not its definition. Something: At least one thing Everything: Everything (which ...

No? How is there no difference? One is a subset of the other.

Why would that be a problem? I don't see anything "incomplete" here.

Why not exactly? I read the quote, nothing in it says this is problematic. Morality and suffering/harm are the same "class" of things. We can use logi...

Ok. I would have decribed this as "There is no answer to moral questions" but I see we effectively agree even though we use different words for it

I don't understand the significance of the reply to the first quote. Ok, survival instincts are not deterministic. So? I'm confused about one thing th...

Whether or not it's wrong Really? I highly doubt this. What if I then asked you "why do you believe in this moral principle" you'll have to find some ...

Ok. I'm just curious what basis you would have to disagree with someone on a moral question then. If there are no hard rules, only rough and ready gen...

I don't think this is correct. Ethics is about what you "should" or "shouldn't" do on some moral level but it doesn't actually have binding power. I d...

I don't understand what two "identical ideas" look like so I can't begin to answer the question. Also there is a little arrow under every message that...

If you include things like time and position then two objects can never be identical

Ok. This to me sounds like "There is no right answer" which is why I was confused. So your position as far as I understand is: There is a right moral ...

Ok. But do you think we can formulate some function with respect to time to get what Bartricks is thinking? Example: F(2019/12/20 1:11 pm) = walruses ...

what seems to contradict is:

These statements seem to contradict

I don't think "reason" is the right word here. I think "intuition" is better. Reason makes it sound like there is a correct answer (and you're saying ...

This sounds like what a certain German philosopher with an iconic mustache warned would happen

An experience someone is trying to avoid Again, I don't know what these mean so I can't really say anything. It is however usual for an action to do b...

I... Cannot see any similarities between life and a mandelbrot set ????? Is a world without people a world without suffering? I'd say yes. So is a wor...

Yes. As I said. I disagree. If someone could have blinked to save the world from nuclear Armageddon I wouldn't think it bad for that person not to bli...

You can't be politically correct or incorrect when you're trying to describe nature. Politics has nothing to do with it. What you choose to call diffe...

You don't "solve" a contradiction. A contradiction means: there is no solution to whatever you were trying to solve when you got this

Just wanted to say I'm impressed with this relationship Though I don't know much about his political view, when it comes to his views about consciousn...