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I'm asking you specifically about word definition/usage.

Which has been my point all along, contra the attempted spin of nonsense.

I mean, this is clearly of a case of you thinking that people SHOULD have concern with conventions and try to match them.

If you're not trying to match the convention, because of a lack of regard for it, how could you make a mistake in word definition/usage?

You're saying that even if they're not trying to match the convention, they could be making a mistake?

If they're not trying to match the convention, then telling them that they're not matching the convention (by saying that something is correct/incorre...

A choice. What I'm talking about is whether the "choice" is determined. It's not. ("Choice" is in quotation marks there because it wouldn't be a choic...

So, when someone uses a word in a way that doesn't at all match the convention, do you ask them first if they were trying to match the convention befo...

It's not clear to me what you have in mind here. I might agree with you, but I don't know what an example would be.

"Correct" has a prescriptive connotation. Because people would rather be surrounded by folks whose beliefs are true as you say. It's true that most pe...

Some choices are epistemically random. Do you know why the word "epistemically" is in that sentence?

Which of course is already putting social pressure on them. If they don't use the meaning you're calling "correct," they're being a pain in the ass. O...

Can we make statements about something other than language in your view? And would you say that you never use "correct" prescriptively?

Are you just saying that that's the popular way to think about mathematics?

The problem would be if one is claiming that anything prescriptive is objective, and of course I'm not a fan of people putting prescriptive social pre...

<---doesn't for a second believe that anyone here is actually using "correct" to simply descriptively refer to what's conventional, with no hint of a ...

For one, they're what I consider good writers. Clear, coherent, there's a good logical flow to their writing and argumentation most of the time.

See the list of some of my favorite philosophers on my profile.

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking, but I wouldn't call something a choice if it's determined.

It can be, sure. Again, I said, "Some choices are epistemically random, sure."

Re concepts as solutions to problems, would you characterize the concept of "food" for example as "the solution to the problem of finding sustenance/r...

Not sure what that's referring to. In cases where utterances are not causal. There can be cases where utterances are causal. For example, a bomb that'...

Why is Glenn Magee reading "love of wisdom" as "endless pursuit of something that can never be attained" anyway? Is his love life that bad? Or does he...

Some choices are epistemically random, sure. And many if not most people (including me) intentionally pursue some choices that seem random.

I'd say the word "good" was forgotten. Hegel is not a good philosopher. :joke:

Your "many things" aren't things "in and of themselves." Those are properties of something. Properties are not separable from the thing with those pro...

What dynamically biases the possibilities, to a point where eventually it's 100% in favor of a particular possibility (at the moment when you make you...

It's rhetorical, because (in my opinion) obviously you should realize that other people have no obligation to cater to you when they don't have a prob...

Because you have a problem with it? That's your problem. I'm not about to change something I'm fine with just because other people have a problem with...

Okay . . . what am I supposed to do about it?

Which I of course do not see as a problem.

I see the (statistical) norms more as an ancillary ending place. ("statistical" because I don't buy the notion of prescriptive norms period)

Wait, your saying that ethics is also determined by norms?

How, in your view, can someone be mistaken about whether something is unethical?

I can't be wrong about whether something is unethical. (Of course, I can't be right, either. Right and wrong don't apply here.) Re the other part, in ...

I don't agree that there's any context within which concepts are correct.

Which claim did you want more "substance" for?

I don't see anything unethical about any utterances. That doesn't mean that I like all utterances that people make in all contexts, or that I think al...

The "demand" was in the context of folks demanding that I use particular pronouns to refer to them.

You're interested in debating. I'm interested in having conversations. Re an issue like this, this isn't something I'm going to think that I'm wrong a...

Also re conceding. How is that something that is done in a conversation where people are trying to understand each other? Conceding is something you d...

Couldn't an ought statement be about something people usually do? "One ought not run up to strangers and punch them" for example. There are exceptions...

It's supposed to be a conversation where we're trying to understand each other, no? Why would you even look at that as something where "red herrings" ...

It just depends on how the conversation is going, if I think it's going. I was writing some longer posts, but this one fell apart when you ignored poi...

So would you say it's easy to understand someone redefining "correct" that way or not?

In my opinion discussions don't work when they're not easygoing/friendly, when people are trying to prove the other wrong rather than trying to unders...

Yes, I respond with questions all the time. My goal is to get folks to think and learn.

If you say something like "I use 'correct' so that it refers to 'a puppy'" that's easy to understand, isn't it?

Right. So in this case, "correct/incorrect" is just descriptive, where it's the same as "conventional/unconventional." It has no prescriptive weight o...

Maybe don't start posts with stuff that you consider superfluous? Keep them short and dive right into what you want to discuss at the start. Again, yo...