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Okay, so you're saying that psychology and neuroscience are the relevant fields. What are a couple examples you have in mind of psychologists and/or n...

You'd be making a correlation, but correlation doesn't imply causation. Even at that, though, what would be evidence that "hate speech" is often corre...

Again, I'm just curious about what you have in mind. It seems like maybe we're using "belief" differently.

To trust something merely because they're experts is the argument from authority fallacy. It depends on what we're talking about. You have to look at ...

"What field would we be talking about here, anyway?" That's not just rhetorical, by the way. What field do you think is pertinent, and from where are ...

I'm not about to hinge it on the mere fact that people are socially recognized as "experts in the field" (what field would we be talking about here, a...

There's no good excuse for having homeless people (who don't want to be homeless), people who have to go without healthcare, people who have to go wit...

I often say that part of how I know that God doesn't exist is that the very idea is stupid to begin with. (I'm pretty sure I said this earlier in this...

Well, "better" is a statement of preference on my view. I think it's better. Someone else might not.

Stressing in that you're still saying that it's belief.

I'm not sure what you're thinking here. People will have preferences for approaches to government. You can prefer fewer laws.

As I noted, I love engaging with fiction, I love imagination, fantasy, etc.--and a lot of what I've done for work involves that, too. I just don't bel...

What does that refer to, though? You're saying a belief you're not aware of?

Sure. And to know this, we need to be able to show that it's a cause. You're on a philosophy board. You're familiar with epistemology, right?

I don't typically think about anything in "rights" terms, aside from what we've legally stipulated as rights. At any rate, speech has nothing to do wi...

From experience elsewhere, I'm not about to focus on the can of worms that's talking about sex in this regard. We can focus on a bunch of other stuff,...

Yeah, that's all part of being a minarchist libertarian--we're characterized by wanting to minimize laws. I've often said that politicians should be g...

I didn't mean people don't get pulled over for any other reason. I meant in my experience people tend to get pulled over for speeding, just for drivin...

Yes, of course. "Getting implemented" isn't speech.

Yes. And while I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, in my experience this seems to be how police have treated speed limits for quite some time. P...

What would you say is the difference between a passive belief and an active belief. Or maybe I'm just asking for a better explanation of how passive b...

Maybe you literally believe fictions when you're engaging with them, but I sure do not. It seems to me that literally believing them would be unusual ...

I can see that if it's something that doesn't involve choice/that people have no control over, but when it involves choices, I'd just stick to penaliz...

You're not understanding the comment or the idea that the comment is about. I'm not arguing that "Everything is made of consciousness" is true. I'm sa...

Per what?

Just to reiterate, to claim that something like speech is causal to behavior in others, it's required, at least on my view of what counts as causality...

Sure, telling people that studies show a correlation is fine. Not just based on that, but I'm not in favor of drunk driving laws. In general, I'm not ...

Based on what? How are you figuring likelihood. I don't at all buy Bayesian probability by the way.

Which is not the case as I've explained a couple times already. All I require is that we actually show that it's a cause, which requires showing the o...

Okay, but I couldn't disagree with you more. It's not that the correlation can't be the cause of something. But the fact of a correlation doesn't tell...

What did you think I wasn't familiar with and what was your evidence?

I think that for most medical claims, we don't know causes very well. Genetics seem to have a lot more to do with it than we usually stress culturally...

lol--I simply pointed you to an article about something you weren't familiar with.

Aside from knowing this isn't the case--I've known some very odd people, not everyone considers the same thing flourishing.

Yeah, on that we agree.

That's semantic (it has to do with meaning; what the particular form of "racism" is about). But tons of people who are antisemites do not think about ...

You want to argue causation. Correlations do not imply causation. That's not dismissing correlations as such. They simply do not imply causation.

Would you subscribe to a compatibilist version of it? I don't believe that compatibilism is coherent.

So you don't buy free will.

That's not an opinion, it's a factual claim.

I always think it's ridiculous when people say things like this: "Whereas antisemitism is a primitive critique of the world of capitalist modernity." ...

Which is irrelevant to whether it was ontologically necessary.

I suppose this sort of thing isn't possible?

We can't imagine what someone else might say? After all, a lot of the content on boards like this might as well be coming from a telemarketing or apol...

One can't forward an argument much worse than "that's utter nonsense and you know it"

Well, or the world of neither as I noted. :razz:

So intentionally post on a board dedicated to illegitimate human self-worship and egotism? That sounds like a plan.

Well, because it might be wrong to say it's not making factual claims. The very idea of that might not even make sense.

Offhand I can't think of an ontological claim that wouldn't be a factual claim. Can you think of one?

You understand that it's noncontroversially considered one of the main branches of philosophy, though?