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Additionally, the idea that no one should ever feel bad is flawed. Plenty of worthwhile things can only be had by feeling bad at some point in the pro...

Are we supposed to be surprised that you can't name a single good reason to believe it?

I think there's a problem simply with hinging anything on suffering. Especially if we're defining it so broadly as "anything that makes someone feel b...

On that definition, by the way, (a) what mental phenomenon wouldn't be objective? and (b) what would "subjective" refer to? Re (a) anything you think ...

You die. Your consciousness ceases. Your body decays. That's it. No good reason to believe anything else, as much as we might like to fantasize about ...

That's what she said.

Should I repeat what I said again, too? Would that be helpful? Here you go: Of course, since empirical claims can't be proved in the first place. No o...

Because that's a common definition of that term. Subjective refers to things that are mind-dependent. Not when we're using "subjective" in the sense o...

"Objective" has been used that way, especially by idealists, but it's more common in contemporary philosophy (where idealism isn't near as common as i...

I wouldn't say that "perfectly"/"imperfectly" makes much sense here. It's rather a matter of how individuals think about it, however they're applying ...

That's for sure. ;-)

Yes. Sad, isn't it?

Some of philosophy is idiotic. Some isn't.

But it's kind of dumb to think any of that is worth serious consideration when the only thing it has going for it is that it's possible.

Probably helps if those of us who arent idealists think it's worth "taking seriously." I have to be dishonest to treat it as if I don't think it's bas...

Fixed that for you.

What DingoJones said (assuming determinism that is, not that I'm a determinist). Also: There's no such thing as a nonphysical anything.

Of course, since empirical claims can't be proved in the first place. No one is asking for proof. Just any evidence. Is this necessarily a religious i...

Okay, my truth theory in a nutshell: ‘P’ is true for S iff S judges ‘P’ to have relation R to either S’s phenomenal P, and/or S’s stock of previously ...

Logic and mathematics are ways that we think and talk about the world--namely, a way that we think and talk about relations. At a very basic level, we...

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Re truth theory, its easiest if I copy/paste a summary of my view, but I need to do it in a bit. I'm on a mobile a...

Most of that would be misleading in my view. I use "subjective" simply as a label for "anything mental." I don't think it's a good idea to attach any ...

That would be a bad move because subjective/objective don't imply or in any way map to anything about agreement or "shared." Also, argumentum ad popul...

Yeah, it's definitely just that I'm not familiar with the arguments for it. Good work. :roll:

Yeah, that's all I'm saying, really. Subjectivity then is all of those brain states from the first-person perspective. Objectivity is the complement.

It's a straw man to say that I mean "personal opinion" by "subjective." Ontological idealists believe that only mind(s) exists. What I mean by the ter...

Mentality is what particular brain states are like when you are the brain in question. It's what the properties are like when you are those properties...

The only thing is that contingently, I almost always see it wrapped up with religious beliefs. What you're saying would make sense otherwise, though. ...

You don't think that anything is objective if you're an idealist.

Knowledge doesn't imply logical certainty. (And aside from that, logic is something we constructed in the first place.) Worrying about whether we have...

Ah. Well, I wouldn't say that there is any "objective reasoning." That's an oxymoron rather.

Who said there was such a thing as "objective reasoning"? I was just being honest. Would you prefer I be dishonest?

Good--things one approves of, things one prefers or things that one feels are worthwhile or valuable in the long term, even if one would prefer other ...

Obviously it's subjective.

Idealism seeming like a pretty retarded belief that people seem to buy to try to justify stupid religious beliefs seems like a good reason to me. It's...

Because that's what our observations/science have determined. Could that be wrong? Sure. It wouldn't be science if it couldn't be wrong, but to believ...

No, that doesn't follow. You could define knowledge as something broader, yet you could claim that all knowledge happens to have property p." Okay, so...

It can't be beyond your cognitive abilities to understand and answer a simple yes/no question. Or at least I can't buy that that could be beyond your ...

MF'er. Yes. No. Or "I cannot answer yes or no because . . ."

Beautiful, but I didn't ask you that. I asked you this simple yes or no question: Is knowledge defined as "What I am perceiving"? Answer yes or no or ...

Jesus. It's like you can't learn this part. Is knowledge defined as "what I am perceiving" ?

If the issue is justification, we can nip that in the bud by the fact that what counts as a justification for anything is subjective.

You're taking a step back instead of answering questions I'm asking and addressing points I'm making. This: "How do you know that an object can exist ...

Did you honestly just say that you're using the term "know" to refer to "things that I'm perceiving" because you know that you're perceiving what you'...

That would follow if you're using "know" to refer to "things that I'm perceiving." Why would you use the term "know" that way?

Re Hume, for one, re this: "external objects become known to us only by those perceptions" I'd agree in the sense that we'd be talking about how we in...

"Unperceived object" isn't a contradictory term. "Object" doesn't mean "perceived." And just because Hume says something, that doesn't mean it's corre...

Anyway, you don't need to explain what idealism is in this thread. We should get back to the fact that it's no more irrefutable than realism is.

So then you're equivocating the term "external" (you're using the same term to mean different things from one sentence to the next)

Locational--where something is located with respect to something else in terms of extension and/or space.