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He asked about your familiarity with Husserl.

Yeah, it's frustrating. I can understand to some extent that people might conflate "stuff that most atheists I encounter (usually by 'debating' with t...

Yeah, it is true. Atheism only refers to the lack of a belief in gods. You can think that evolution--or even all of science--is complete hogwash and s...

?? I quoted the beginning of the "Ontological Proof" section, and I asked specific questions about what I quoted from Sartre in that section. I wasn't...

It strikes me as oddly ignorant from someone who would be a well-respected mathematics professor. I would expect that argument from someone trying to ...

I'm lost. What are we defining, first off?

Well this one is starting out well.

I don't know about that. I think that Heidegger, Derrida, etc. are worse. I also think it's because they're awful writers. At any rate, so if we're no...

So am I supposed to not worry about what's actually written by Sartre in too much detail, or?

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What feels right to you would be linked to innate dispositions that you have. There are probably some aspects of Judeo-Christianity that you felt unco...

So I found that section. I'm pretty much lost from the beginning: "Being has not been given its due. We believed we had dispensed with granting transp...

I don't recall it offhand. I'd have to look at it again to find what the "ontological proof" in the intro is supposed to be. Is it long? You could ret...

First, I'm just trying to figure out if you calling the whole of the book, Being and Nothingness, a "proof"?

If you're trying to do morality from a purely "intellectual"/"reasoned" perspective, you're doing it "wrong." Ask yourself if abortion seems acceptabl...

Morality is all about your personal preferences (due to dispositions, intuitions, emotional reactions, etc.) with respect to interpersonal behavior th...

That's not a common definition of "personhood." That's why I said any definition is fine, but it has to be a common definition of personhood.

So what common definition of personhood are you employing?

Morals, normatives, purposes, etc. arise in individual dispositions, intuitions, emotions, etc. Those aren't actually chaotic. There are some very com...

No. I specifically did not say that. I said that any of the common definitions of personhood would do.

Yeah, there's not one universal defintion. That's why I said to use whatever common definition you prefer. My comments didn't hinge on a particular de...

So, your belief as a noumenon rather than your belief as a phenomenon? I wouldn't be sure how to make sense out of that. But I'm not much of a Kantian...

I appreciate that you wrote all of that, but you're not understanding the question I asked. I was asking you a simple question about semantics with re...

Depends on the atheist in question. They have all different sorts of views about this stuff. Re "explaining the nature of their belief that a God does...

Again, it has nothing to do with order or complexity, assuming there are plausible ways to quantify such things in the first place.

The appearance factors in question are matters of genetic expression.

It wasn't left undefined. There are common definitions of personhood. I directed you towards some of them via the articles in question. I didn't forwa...

No. If you think that something can be present that's not in the world, that's not extended, that doesn't have a location, etc., then it's up to you t...

I don't know what you're responding to there.

Re existing, the idea is simply that something is present, it occurs, it obtains, it's instantiated, etc. If we say "There is a such and such" we're s...

So obviously you do not agree that traits can arise evolutionarily if there's no survival advantage to them or need for them. But you never explicitly...

All that you'd need to do is look at people.

The logical dilemma is that you can't forward an idea of "race" that's accurate about what people and their genetic traits are like with the idea bein...

You asked what aesthetics is, and then proceeded to talk about the concept of beauty. I was just clarifying, due to the thread title, that aesthetics ...

That's the whole idea. As I wrote to NOS4A2 above: "Also with the standard 'race' characteristics of skin color, hair type, nose shape, eye color. The...

Just avoiding objections from a strict literalist reading. For example, obviously women can do things associated with giving birth that men can not do...

Is "defining the nature of belief" asking for something different than "defining belief"? If so, what's the difference?

I even think the idea that different biological sexes have significant dispositional and ability differences is mostly hogwash. It's indicative of the...

Aside from the fact that if you go back far enough, we all apparently come from the same place, from the same general population (circa eastern (altho...

Also with the standard "race" characteristics of skin color, hair type, nose shape, eye color. There's a huge amount of variation within a supposed "r...

So as I explained above, for one, in particular supposed "racial" categories, there's actually a very wide degree of variation among members in the su...

Again, per the definition I gave this is an attempt to categorize things this way where we ignore/are ignorant of a bunch of stuff that makes the atte...

Then frame the discussion that way. If you frame it as a discussion about atheism, and you characterize that as being a "system of belief," you're mos...

I don't know if this is referring to something other than my comments, but I said that the idea of nonphysical existents is incoherent on my view (non...

I don't know what the inference is that you're making though. It seems like you're simply forwarding the old God of the Gaps argument, which has been ...

I missed the first part of this discussion, but in service of some reading comprehension help :blush: he's asking for a philosophical ethics text that...

If we leave out all of the detail, yes, but it's where there's supposed to be a significant genetic connection, and it's where we're brushing over dif...

Definitely, but I've always had the impression that the complexity was a factor of smart people who had been indoctrinated with religious beliefs as a...

I never constructed a definition of it before, and I'd have to search for one I agree with, but I'd say that it's something like, "An attempt to categ...

We're all over the map here. Re this: "No. This is such a basic and simple thing to understand. Atheism isn't anything like an ideology, a body of the...