By being yourself. You have a self-image, we all do, but it is not you, and it cannot and does not compel you to act. You take note of things that hap...
While you are right about how gay men are treated, it is just an example of a more-or-less universal trait among humans: discrimination. Anyone who is...
So you do not accept that photons impinging on a human retina give rise to seeing things? :chin: Yes, well the problem with that is that you have been...
I don't really see this as the fault of psychology. What's annoying you is the manipulation of people for commercial purposes, and I agree with your o...
I have always felt sorry for psychology and psychologists. Their discipline is significant and important (IMO), but it is disabled by those who would ...
Not quite. I don't know the 'medium of thought' that *I* employ, although I can speculate. Trying to analyse some object, using that object as the too...
The question is interesting, but is it that sort of question that we (humans) cannot answer, except via unverifiable speculation? I rather think it mi...
An instantiation is created dynamically, which would seem to support the notion of 'red' being a human thing, existing only in human minds. If it is o...
The first and most obvious response that occurs to me is: if all humans are completely removed from the Physical Universe, does 'red' remain? I.e. is ...
Let's begin by saying that my answer is given as a human. I.e. I am not considering how another sentient but non-human being might 'see' the world. Of...
OK, that seems fair enough. ... But ... I'm still not quite sure what the (sub-)topic of conversation is. :chin: So, What is the (sub-)topic you wish ...
This is something I agree with, but I've never seen anyone else express such views. The poisonous influence of capitalism has become so familiar that ...
In the first quote, it is someone else's ideas that are being described. The second quote is a declaration of personal belief. In this case the two of...
No! I'm pretty sure the words you're replying to say this quite clearly. I remarked that the term "redness" is being used to label/represent the human...
A person who "rightfully knows something", in your terms, is someone who has factual, maybe even Objective, knowledge of something, I think. So no, I ...
You keep expressing yourself absolutely, as though your assertions have been proven correct by someone. This one hasn't, although it could well be acc...
To me, something I believe is something I hold to be true. This carries with it the clear understanding that I may be wrong, and it may not be true. I...
Yes. None of them is necessarily essential. As ever, it depends on context. For lightweight everyday social chit-chat, none of them need intrude. In a...
I'm fairly sure this is not the case. And it's nothing to do with mistaking the label for the thing it describes either. The experience of seeing some...
Agreed. :up: I hope I didn't. I was trying to emphasise the difference between those two things. Redness is being used to describe the human experienc...
I rather think that we sift the intended meaning from the words of another by context, as we have always done. It isn't a detective story, and the Soc...
I think science is a philosophy, to use your terminology. Science is actually a tool developed under the auspices of the analytic/objectivist/logical-...
You are missing a distinction. A human can experience seeing the colour red. A machine or a robot can measure the presence or absence of electromagnet...
To take the experience of seeing colour out of the world, and into the viewer's mind (where it belongs) is not the same as taking colour out of the wo...
As an absolute statement - "...is evil" --- this cannot be correct. Because it cannot be justified/proven. I accept that you consider it evil, but to ...
It looks like you are seeking to add justification to a view you already hold. :chin: My view is that all consensual sex between adults is morally acc...
Doesn't this presuppose knowledge of consciousness that we do not currently have? :chin: ...and exactly what are these "elements" that are measurable ...
I don't think it does. In scientific phraseology, correlation does not disprove the existence of causation. We cannot safely go beyond this, without g...
And yet Steve's point remains unanswered: scientists do not have a method for studying the Experience or the Experiencer. Science is the (valuable and...
Exactly. Evil is in the eye of the beholder. What is evil for you and me - say the mosquitos that spread malaria - is just living your life to those m...
Some words are sometimes easy to define. Other times, and in other contexts, defining terms is next to impossible. And all human languages are stuffed...
On the whole, yes. Western civilisation is an imperial and xenophobic movement, responsible for capitalism and continuous-growth economics, and the us...
Language is a Wonderful Thing. I delight in your delight in it. Sadly, I have nothing to offer that is worth reading, on this subject. So this is it. ...
I haven't claimed that, I don't think, but it is something I believe to be true. But first, your introduction: You stated that physics has good argume...
I suggest that physics is not a good yardstick in the consideration of qualia, and the like. Physics is about the Physical Universe, while qualia belo...
Yes, and they go on to experience Redness, which I should've emphasised. :blush: Robots can't do that. Even if, one day, they become conscious - the r...
This confuses two things. The ball is not red; the ball reflects electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength around 700 nm. "Red" is a label that huma...
Oh yes. :yikes: I see now. No, IMO the redness is in the eye of the (human) beholder. :up: I like your Conscious Universe/Physical Universe split. It'...
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