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Pronsias del Mar

['Member']Joined: May 22, 2018 at 10:46Last active: June 28, 2018 at 08:192 discussions24 comments

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Yes it’s trodden ground since Shakespeare: I can’t think previous phil didn’t touch on it but will search elsewhere. Thanks for replying.
May 29, 2018 at 18:30
I was crowdsourcing. Ah well.
May 28, 2018 at 17:22
'I talk to the trees…'
May 26, 2018 at 13:43
I’ll do that. Thanks for yr interest.
May 24, 2018 at 14:47
Can we get back to the point? @MetaphysicsNow was onto something.
May 23, 2018 at 20:05
No-one has thought it was all Shakespeare for decades. That Marlowe collaborated is possibly relevant here inasmuch as he was university educated and ...
May 23, 2018 at 19:42
Your speculation seems pretty good. All we need is some suggestion from someone that such a trope, whether as parlour game or not, was indeed in circu...
May 23, 2018 at 17:24
The scene has a Chaucerian flavour, you’re right, but the specific trope of argument? Don’t know, haven’t read him. No, not looking for a paper topic,...
May 23, 2018 at 15:50
Now we’re getting somewhere. Yes a “philosophers’ parlour game” is the kind of thing I think it might be. And yes the philosophical interest (if any) ...
May 23, 2018 at 15:45
Very nearly. I don’t think Shakespeare was inspired by or even interested in a current philosophical dispute. He had a dramatic purpose which was to s...
May 23, 2018 at 14:07
Further to 'understanding X' in previous post: what does 'exist' mean? If by definition God is outside nature, what kind of existence are we talking a...
May 23, 2018 at 10:52
X=God or gods exist ‘X is true’=theism ‘X is false’= atheism ‘X is either true or false but I don’t know which’=agnosticism There are more positions. ...
May 23, 2018 at 09:52
The point is clear in the thread. Not the scene’s significance in the play but the significance if any of the philosophy used in the scene. The questi...
May 23, 2018 at 06:49
Yes there is but having read some Bacon it's clearly nonsense. One of them writes weightlessly, the other leadenly, and at the risk of upsetting NKBJ ...
May 22, 2018 at 22:46
Well that's the reductive account and you may be right (though it does imply that Shakespeare was not a good judge of what's interesting). The questio...
May 22, 2018 at 22:24
But that's what's interesting (if it is): that a later debate is prefigured in a little exchange in Shakespeare which I think he got secondhand from s...
May 22, 2018 at 20:32
Yes it seems similar (see MetaphysicsNow above) but more to do with naming than perceiving.
May 22, 2018 at 18:38
I don’t assume it’s not. I just think it’s not.
May 22, 2018 at 18:32
On second thought it’s not simply the use of analogical reasoning, it’s the wedge driven between the ability to perceive things and the ability to nam...
May 22, 2018 at 17:46
Maybe so: where does Socrates do that?
May 22, 2018 at 16:49
Lots of people are philosophical but not philosophers. And I’m not on the attack. And whether Shak was a philosopher doesn’t matter. I’m only asking i...
May 22, 2018 at 16:48
Lots of people are philosophical but not philosophers. And I’m not on the attack. And whether Shak was a philosopher doesn’t matter. I’m only asking i...
May 22, 2018 at 16:47
"is the courtier supersmart or just not as gullible as the rest?" Whichever you like but what makes it interesting on the stage is that the blind guy ...
May 22, 2018 at 15:52
"He does too well on the vision test" doesn't really capture what happens. It suggests he was caught out because he identified colours correctly. But ...
May 22, 2018 at 15:19
If it were obvious it would not be dramatically interesting (the episode is meant to show how, unlike all around him, the courtier is supersmart) and ...
May 22, 2018 at 12:21