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So should it be compulsory for an OP to provide his/her definition of a word used in his/her opening statements when requested? And if so, would it be...

My point is that you can't argue sensibly over wether animals have rights, as long as it's not clear what the word animals refers to. In said example ...

Nonsense, in the animal utopia farm I could also choose to wait with killing and eating the animal till it reaches old age, and it starts suffering fr...

Following this logic it would also be ok to eat eggs, especially when unfertillized. Most fruits hardly contain any fat or protein apart from the seed...

Yes, as these two are formulated, the discussion doesn't seem to change into a debate. To me there is a great difference between the two, Discussion m...

They were implied as you thought, however, in order to excell I should have been more explicit about them in my opening statement, since it wasn't tha...

My main point is you still eat (part of) the plant, so it's not possible to survive without eating plants as you previously stated. It may be possible...

If you eat fruit you eat plant. You may not be killing the plant for it (though you are 'killing' the plants offspring in the fruit). Even if it were ...

I can understand your frustration about this, but please don't box me into that group on forehand. The fact that I disagreed with an argument used doe...

agreed Thanks for the compliment, though if it was really excellent, I ought to have included what Srap Tasmaner pointed out here.

I agree that both parties should agree on the definition of certain words, wich is the main point for starting this thread. However, I dislike discuss...

It tells me you were already familiar enough with the words to be able to understand it without me providing the definitions of the words used. Of cou...

Ask the question in french and it's obvious they are more alike than different from each other. artiste ou artisan? (artist or craftsman?)

I don't think art is mainly about objective truths, I think it's more about transcendent subjective truths.

Thanks for admitting your attempt at hijacking my topic and confirming your attempts at poisoning the well, rather than responding to me in the propor...

In general each of those words could be a thread of it's own of course. But you seemed to have understood what I meant with them in this thread clearl...

Nonsense, you could have responded in the propor thread to me asking for a definition on this, and I made a reasonable argument for asking so. You , n...

I didn't object to the conclusion, I objected to the type of argument used. It's rather irrelevant how long people perceive something to be the case o...

Lol, you troll (at least for your sake I hope you were trolling). You are trying to substanciate your appeal to authority by refuting your unwarrented...

Nonsense, argument from authority is wrong as long as one of the participants doesn't accept the authority of claimed authority by other(s). You ought...

Argument from authority? really?

The barber either has a beard, or leaves town in order to get shaven wether or not he does it himself or visits a collegue, for sure he doesn't shave ...

As all of us have been at some point in our life, and probably will be again. We can only try to do better, and as a result we usually will do better,...

Anything that is not within the defintion of the physical, irrelevant to how you define the physical. Perhaps "what is the most usefull definition of ...

Ah, to my surprise an honest attempt to actually make this into a philosophical discussion. I agree we have a conundrum here. One that is clearly demo...

In order to get an accurate answer to this question please define: 1 objectivity 2 morality 3 imaginary If you don't people will apply their own defin...

Great, another topic started about a subject without a definition of the subject. How do you define racism? I define racism as the misconception that ...

Well, perhaps they are not totally irrelevant to a politicians, my remark was a reference to the tendency of a politicians to consider facts way less ...

So, if i accidently run over a deer with my car and then eat it, and since the killing wasn't intentional it's ok? I doubt humans can survive on eatin...

Not really, there are many single celled plants and animals that are undetectable with the naked human eye. Perhaps you meant to restrict it to plants...

Nonsense, in your first post you stated 'animals' not 'sentient animals'. Secondly it's still unclear where you draw the line. Are animals that have a...

You clearly demonstrated to have understood my critisism correctly. Where exaclty do we draw the line between 'sentient' and 'not sentient' when consi...

I just want you guys to be clear about wich exact group of animals you are talking about. Just referring to them as 'animals' while you seem to mean o...

Why assume facts are of any relevance to a politicians?

This only goes for brains that were already exposed to numerous stimuli. mammals get brain stimuli even in the womb. It's a fact that even though you ...

The exact same motivations that motivate people to make goods in a society with money, Money is just a practical solution to trade. Without money the ...

Same goes for several species of animals. You haven't adressed this fact, wich is an obvious flaw in your argument. Resulting from conflating three di...

I can think of various other descriptions, passionate, religiously or earnestly to name some. I was talking about the sets of axioms people hold true ...

Firstly: You merely posted your opionon that there are none before in this thread, That is not adressing, that is pushing your opinion. Secondly: You ...

I think there is a great difference between asking about the existence of a god in general, and asking about the existence of a specific god. When tak...

Only if one assumes only scientific truths are true. To me a philosopher is someone who seeks the truth, the means and method are of less importance t...

At the moment it would be premature, perhaps a shared reward with the leaders of china, north korea and south korea after reunification of north and s...

Nonsense, in case of scavenging I can eat meat without causing any additional suffering, the animal is dead already. Then the discussion should focus ...

So you are not actually interested in the philosopical ethical discussion as much as you are interested in my personal choises in the matter. Well sor...

Ah now I see where your confusion comes from: I'm sorry to be the one bringing you the bad news, but even those animals suffer, eventually they all di...

only quoting half my statement on the subject seems disingenious. I don't like being misrepresented. My statement was: "I don't really see an ethical ...

Concious or sentient, I came to understood from other posts that it boiled down to wether or not the animal in question has a nervous system so it cou...

Seems to me that the question wether it is ethical to farm animals for consumption gets conflated with the question wich animals are ethical to farm f...