Jake

My universal maxim reflects the facts better than yours. Again, I am not against logic. I'm only against efforts to turn logic in to some kind of reli...

As personal choice I have no complaint. I'm objecting only to any effort to turn a personal choice in to a universal maxim. Thought is the source of b...

Every single one of the millions of species which have existed on Earth for millions of years have been of limited ability. This doesn't conclusively ...

Yes, possible. Not very likely in my view, but this is clearly debatable.

No, it's not THE tool. It's a tool. A useful tool without question. You seem to be assuming that making sense is the only valid operation. So you shou...

We have thousands of hydrogen bombs aimed down our own throat, an ever present self extinction threat which we typically find too boring to discuss. I...

As one example, logic is obviously made of thought. Thought is an element of nature, and like all elements of nature it has certain properties and cha...

Ah, but we can explore the ways in which we are ignorant, insane and otherwise limited, and we can talk about that.

Knowing this is a tall order that I can't deliver on. However, it's entirely reasonable to note that every species ever born on this planet has had a ...

Indeed. Because once one is in the establishment one has something to lose, and thus can't take the risks that are often necessary. You know, if I'm a...

It would be inherently illogical to argue against logic in general, for it has clearly proven it's usefulness in too many tasks to begin to list. It's...

In many threads on the forum it seems it would be beneficial to shift some focus from the battle of competing answers to a closer inspection of the qu...

Then one wonders why we are endlessly discussing it in thread after thread after thread....??? But, there may be a good reason for that. If the proces...

The following excellent video on the subject of time may help confuse the issue further. :smile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qu9XaF2K10 The video...

Belief can not be left out of the analysis so long as BOTH sides of the God debate have faith in the qualifications of their chosen authority to deliv...

1) Our definitions of existence bear little resemblance to the phenomena of space, the vast majority of reality. 2) Our notion that time is a fixed me...

This is a great cliche! Which explains why I typically don't spend a lot of time reading the experts. Easy question. That's how we nerds jerk off. But...

Yep. Second the motion. Anyway, great contribution SophistiCat!

Thank you for your encouragement, as I clearly need it from time to time. ------------ Ok, so one direction we might explore is... If we wipe theism a...

Ok, fair enough, so introduce me to those who are challenging the foundations of the God debate. You're clearly more broadly educated on such subjects...

Most people, theist and atheist, have little real interest in thinking such topics through for themselves. And should they have such an interest they ...

An example... Consider the avant garde jazz musician who is reimagining the musical scale and chord structure. Such a reinventing of the musical wheel...

That's a good one sentence summary of what I'd hoped to accomplish. However, I must admit that such a hope is illogical given that there is no market ...

Sorry to make fun of your harmless gaff, but I think I'll start calling all the skeptics septics too. Seems a great plan! sep·tic /?septik/ nounNorth ...

Thanks for continuing to enrich the analysis by helping us see how we got where we are. Everything you're saying here makes sense to me, though I don'...

Consistently mediocre. To my knowledge there are few to no professional philosophers here. Many of threads are clogged to overflowing with never endin...

I'm very sympathetic to this view, with the exception that at the moment one uses any noun such as God, one has created a "thing" presumed to be separ...

I picture three sections of a forum. 1) At the lowest level are those banned because they just don't seem worth investing time in. We can debate parti...

Yes to all of this, agreed. What I liked about the documentaries linked to above is they seem to do a pretty good job of explaining some of these biza...

But we don't want excluding reference to divinity to become yet another dogma, right? We don't want yet another system of thought built upon unquestio...

I didn't mean to imply that, and thank you for your contribution. Yes, of course, agreed.

Hi Vince, It's not my purpose to debate physics, for I'm clearly not qualified to do so. My point is only that space can not be clearly said to exist ...

Here's another often unexamined assumption at the heart of the God debate, and another example of the attempt to impose human scale concepts upon all ...

Here's another example of how assumptions which are practical, useful and essentially true at human scale can fall apart when we shift the focus to th...

Show us, link to the thread where you challenge the qualifications of human reason for the largest of questions. You can't. Because you never did any ...

God is typically a proposal about the most fundamental nature of all reality. The proposal has the biggest scope of any proposal. What's happening her...

When religious people seek answers, they turn to their holy book. When atheist people seek answers, they turn to reason. Each party references somethi...

Yes, ok, and that's what atheists are doing. They're experiencing a failure to apply logic and reason to logic and reason. That is, they are assuming,...

You didn't answer the question. Here it is again as a reminder. Being the best does not automatically equal being qualified. The smartest squirrel eve...

I can offer real world documented evidence that atheists rarely (if ever) are willing to examine and challenge their chosen authority in the same way ...

It seems the Brits have gone completely nuts. I'm sure glad that could never happen in America. https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2016/0...

Like everything else about humans, anger arises out of the nature of thought. Thus, we should probably be somewhat skeptical of anybody's plan for get...

Are you saying that we should assume without questioning that human reason is qualified to deliver meaningful credible statements on any subject? Put ...

Do you believe it reasonable to question the qualifications of holy books in regards to the largest of questions? If you answer yes, then why are you ...

This is an inevitable result of trying to do philosophy for a living, ie. to earn money. The untold story is all the professional philosophers who wil...

I addressed this. I am examining the evidence, and coming to the correct conclusion that atheists in general typically never bother to even try to pro...

Logic is clearly qualified to state that someone has made no attempt to prove the qualifications of their chosen authority. Please observe how you ign...

You should prove that the rules you're referencing are binding upon the very largest and most fundamental of questions. There's simply no good reason ...

Start your own thread on the subject. Say something interesting, without making any reference to anybody else. Or shut the fuck up.

No Praxis, you don't get anything. I DO NOT want an unquestioning audience. I thrive on challenge, I really do. I just don't find it interesting to be...