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As I have argued on other threads, I know of no reason based argument that says we as humans have any basis at all to say anything about the nature of...

There is nothing in accordance with our human logic that could explain the trinity However, if one by faith believes in a god as the creator of all we...

Not sure it is possible to use the word truth and trump in the same sentence. Fairly sure neither has met the other.

This is a concept of Ignatian Spirituality called the first principal and foundation - I am not evangelizing here, so feel free to discount the God pa...

I have explained it and defined it a few time on here. Just not to your satisfaction. That is why I am asking your definitions to see where we disagre...

Please, using reason and not opinion what proposition is false, and why

I really have no clue what you are asking for there. If you can please define your terms, I would be happy to address what I agree or disagree with.

I don’t think I made any claim about the nature of the necessary being other than the definition of necessary being

I made you a formal argument with propositions and a conclusion. You made an emotional response. Show where the propositions are false or the conclusi...

Theists make positive ones, atheists make negative ones By the way I know of no reasonable theist argument that ends with a conclusion therefore there...

The argument from evil is an atheist argument that is based on the nature of god. The argument that started this thread is an atheist argument that is...

All - the real discussion we are having is, is morality absolute or relative. Most would like to have morality subject to their own personal judgment....

Saying if god is x then god y. Is making a claim about the nature of god. Logical or not, it is a claim about the nature of god My very simple questio...

I think a great deal of difference. I do not think a pragmatic response to an imperfect world can elevate an act from immoral to moral. Think of the t...

yes Yes the lie was and immoral act. The fact that some amount of money is the reason the child can not be cured is an immoral act. Faced with these t...

thanks - My view is that there is not a space between moral and immoral - if one is making a moral judgment of an act - than the judgment is dichotomo...

What you are saying, in every example you give, has nothing at all to do the morality or immorality of the lie - what you are saying in each example i...

At least in my amateur mind - i am not sure I understand the distinction

Can I change it around some - A lot of people, like you, think not all lies are immoral - Why do you think some lies are moral ?? Can you give me an e...

how does is add to trust of make informed decisions easier ? These types of games are easy. To your point - is your intent above to deceive or mislead...

To define it first: A lie communicates some information The liar intends to deceive or mislead The liar believes that what they are 'saying' is not tr...

Lying is always an immoral act Not doing what is in your power to do to prevent harm to others is immoral my point being we are not always presented w...

think we are talking past each other - you are either missing my point, or answering the question you want to answer and not the one asked - let me tr...

Always loved " Sirens of Titan" that the totality of our entire existence was just to provide a space/time traveler a replacement part for his space s...

In some seriousness - and admittedly, I am very unread on the concept at hand, but I can't stop thinking that this issue of determinism is just a regr...

Well I was going to argue your point, then I thought I am not sure I understand it well enough to, so, I said to myself let it go, then I typed this. ...

The judge has no choice, he also is without free will and determined to send you away to life time of jail , full of other people who thru no willful ...

Harry the discussion starts with an If - then statement - concerning the nature of God. These are quite normal - If God is X then God cant be Y - ther...

I see no difference at all between this and my point Am I missing something? again - all you are doing is saying " i disagree with science" and I disa...

all of these opinions, you are assuming to be facts, are not facts - if there is such a thing as "God" Basically you are still saying - Augustine's ar...

which there is no current scientific support for at all. You are just missing stating the first proposition in your logic chain - your first propositi...

this seems just a round about way of saying it can't be God, because there is no God, so it is something else - we just don't know what yet. Which is ...

If it is such a thing as we imagine and call God than it is not a first cause, than at best it is a second cause Which is fine, except one would have ...

Ha - like that

How about instead of lying - I just open the door and shoot him dead. Is that any more or less moral ?

I am not even asking for proof ( whatever that is for such a concept ) just asking if someone can make a reasonable argument that we humans have a bas...

Sorry - made an assumption it was evident that was the cosmological argument. I was not making an argument. I was making a factual statement there is ...

have less than zero interest in a discussion of cause vs being - that has absolutely nothing at all to do with the point I was making.

because the argument I was alluding to that started this argues it is a being and not a cause -

doesn't matter - to me just semantics - have to call "it" something - being is the most used label for this idea - but it is just a label - not materi...

think we have definition issues. Let me define necessary being - A necessary being is a being ( some identifiable entity) who's existence is not conti...

I think necessary being is fine, and there is a reasonable case for it. Both for factual necessity and causal necessity.

there is a reasonable case that at least at one time there was an un-created creator - or put another way, a necessary being. All other God claims are...

Once again - for those making assumptions or claims about the nature of God, what such a being could or could not do, be or not be, etc. Do you have a...

and a few others. I am skeptical that we as human beings can say anything at all of value about the nature of "God" . I know of no reasonable basis to...

Absudism is a philosophy most notably made popular by Camus - What is says in a sentence or two is, men seem to have a need to seek meaning for their ...

Jake - do see this as a kind of restatement of Absurdism ?

One can believe something to be true, and act accordingly based on either fact, reason or faith. It is not a fact that God is It is reasonable to beli...

I would be happy to. He is an interesting, flawed, and complicated man. Very much the type of person one should look to to understand Catholicism. To ...

You asked for my Catholic cut - here it is on this - said much better than I could. “Reason is in fact the path to faith, and faith takes over when re...