I was quite content to have misunderstood - and for the word enlightenment to have been used in an entirely different sense here, to that which I had ...
The anti-progress misanthrope sides with the misanthropic herbivore, in agreement that: So what are the others - as bad or worse? And by what criteria...
Because you fundamentally misunderstand evolution - when you reduce it to the adage 'survival of the fittest.' Humans evolved in a tribal context - an...
I have encountered this hypothesis before. I think it was v-sauce on youtube - well worth checking out if you haven't already. The problem with this h...
I think the subject is implied by - but not present in the sentence, and is the self. The sentence is another way of saying 'I experience raining.' Th...
When I read "enlightenment" - I didn't think yoga. I thought political system based on science and rationality. Evidence of the benefits of science an...
It seems to me your vegetarianism is self congratulatory, rather than ethical. You have no firm grasp on what ethics are, you haven't argued in those ...
Can you honestly be saying at this stage of debate - that if people were vegetarians, animals would not be farmed? There's a difference between simple...
I do understand. I do not agree. What I would tell you is that there are many ways of conceptualizing the world. In your conception the consumer is re...
I don't keep animals. I don't keep farm animals, and I don't keep animals as pets. The question of animal cruelty isn't an issue for me. The question ...
I perhaps didn't emphasize enough the division of labour I alluded to in my previous post. I am not a farmer. I don't know anything about farming. Oth...
Carrion is the flesh of dead animals. That's what we eat. We don't eat animals like lions eat animals - or the larva of a parasitic wasp eats animals,...
Devans99 335 ?diesynyang If everyone was doing the right thing, the world would be a happy place. Girlfriend asks - do these jeans make my bum look fa...
Really? What exactly, in science points to a creator? It's a hypothetical example used to illustrate an idea - the idea being that right and wrong are...
Creative editing on your part. Science was only one of the disciplines I said, grew out of religion. There was also philosophy, politics, law, economi...
Oh, okay - the 'something out there somewhere' view of the universe. You reject religion - that would require some sort of discipline and standards fr...
How does atheism correlate with sadism? — karl stone So where in the world are there atheists indoctrinating children under threat of violence, social...
Right, but that's a good brain - not a good mind. — karl stone ^Wait... fair enough, you haven't really made your point clear. So, you are saying that...
As example, Catholicism dominated Western culture to a degree unimaginable today for 1,000 years, and continues to have a billion members, while few p...
IQ is not an individual quality. It's a statistical measure of intelligence relative to that of others. So, i really don't know what you're saying her...
How does atheism correlate with sadism? Are you saying we should let everyone believe whatever they like - and that contradicting someone is an act of...
Right and wrong is a sense - like the aesthetic sense, or sense of humour. Seeking to define what is right and wrong is difficult for that reason. It'...
I disagree. I think intelligence is made up of two factors: 1) Conception of reality in the mind 2) Neural connections in the brain The intelligence o...
Seventeen pages is a bit much to ask of anyone - but I do recommend the opening post. You're right, that all the world's energy needs could be supplie...
Is that a rational argument? It's not an accurate analogy. Why have you got a handgun in your mouth? There are reasons we created nuclear weapons. The...
Well, we haven't used them in anger but once. Two bombs - but part of the same offensive. Terrible thing - haven't done it again. So, given the collec...
Yes, we can handle it. If we know what's true, and do what's right in terms of what's true - if we value the sustainability of our existence, by those...
I have no plan. Do you imagine I need one? I rather think I don't. I think that people know truth when they see it, and it compels them. They will com...
I don't believe in nuclear weapons. That's the level of denial I'm dealing with. But can we agree that science is - for all intents and purposes, a tr...
Think nothing of it - you wouldn't have stopped Jake banging his drum of doom if you'd ignored it. I tried that. You kept him occupied if anything, an...
That's the second time today I've been taken to task for my sense of humor. In my estimation you're free to think I'm a prat, and free to say so. A li...
I have, but last time I heard of it - not too long ago, it was still in the test phase. In theory, I think it a wonderful idea. Whether it works in pr...
No. Absolutely not. I consider it an ideologically driven misapplication of technology. Science as a tool, and not as a rule for the conduct of human ...
No, but it's not a solution either. It is a hardship for a significant number of people in the world who have very little meat in their diet. And, lik...
More or less, but I don't agree we are unable to adapt quickly enough. If I thought that I wouldn't say anything. What would be the point? I'd just pl...
Imagine you are capitalism. Does that sound attractive to you? I'm trying to describe an opportunity - not a diet regime, or a prison sentence. I'm tr...
We see things quite differently, you and I - but it's not like I don't understand where you're coming from, nor indeed, where people voting for increa...
I'm not angry at all. The crack about swearing was only for emphasis and hopefully, a chuckle. Sorry if it was misjudged. I do not doubt that in indiv...
I could not disagree more without swearing! First, consider the political and personal freedom provided for by a capitalist economy - compared to a co...
The fact the discussion is more interesting without my taking part is an unexpected, and not altogether welcome revelation. Nonetheless, there are a f...
Having read through the thread, it seems I've spoken to all the major concepts, in an argument it took me over twenty years to craft - and about which...
I kind of understand your argument, but there is a real danger, described in Karl Popper's 1947 treatise 'Enemies of an Open Society' - he describes a...
No. Absolutely not. Freedom baby! There's a principle that both limits the legitimate implications of science as truth - and lends science the authori...
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