snowleopard

I couldn't agree more on that point, and which could also certainly apply to the 'Bernardo Kastrup' thread I started. I'm now enjoying this thread, wh...

This is to me perhaps the most profound implication of idealism, that there is no such substrate producing any such substance. Apparently just untold ...

Curiously I don't feel any nihilism at all, at least not from that heartfelt Thich Nhat Hanh version, a truly compassionate master IMO, as I see it mo...

Possibly in need of some loving attention to the throat chakra? :smile:

Not sure what zen makes of the Heart Sutra, as its mention may just earn a whack from the master's keisaku and some more zazen in the zend?. However, ...

You folks have been busy ... Even accounting for time zone variation, I'm beginning to wonder when some of you may sleep. But mainly more and more of ...

Stuff?! ... There's stuff?! How come physicists haven't found it? :wink:

No doubt much of it may well be. But whatever portion of it may be the due to the viable attempts of those who are willing to risk going into unknown ...

Indeed, a google search of flufffwumps reveals zero results, while consciousness reveals 133,000,000 ... no contest.

Well I await with bated breath some alternate coherent explanation that will resolve it .. but I won't hold my breath waiting for yours.

It seems ever more apparent that given the absence of any consensus as to however or whatever consciousness may be, it's no wonder QM physicists can't...

Yes, it appears that we may be at a similar metaphysical crossroad :wink:

Yes, it seems we might just as well be discussing the fate of the Cheshire cat rather than Schrodinger's imaginal pussy, in regards to their respectiv...

Sigh ... Once again resorting to condescension here will not convince me of any superior understanding of the implications of quantum theory. Anyway, ...

Until it is observed by a conscious agent, everywhere and nowhere, aka non-locality.

Huh? Quantum theory has nothing to say about what the device is in essence?! How else would a physicist explain what it is?

More specifcally, I'm asking about how to account for the 'hard problem of consciousness' insofar as physicalist models based on mind being an epiphen...

Again, as long as the mindsets involved are coming at this from different and incongruent ontological premises, one that includes the primacy of consc...

Yeah, I get that. The OP is really about accounting for conscious experience, and if and how idealism might account for it, which then became about ho...

How so? According to QM, is the device not comprised of nothing other than interacting quantum fluctuations in the zero-point field? What is rendering...

Well I remain unconvinced ... Since the device itself is not other than a potential field of possibilities unless an observer is factored in, the idea...

Can you explain what Wheeler is referring to in this interview, when he speaks of "We by our choice of observing device ...", if not an inextricable c...

Again, the Idealist take on this is that there is an existing state in itself that remains in the absence of a finite locus of mind, and yet exists as...

Not to mention "There is no out there out there" ... Was that not Wheeler? Does this not implicitly bring into doubt the notion of a consciousness-ind...

You make a valid point that this quest for a coherent explanation for consciousness should not be reduced to solipsism. Kastrup, for those who may be ...

In other words, it's a convenient way to not have to factor in the inconvenience of a coherent accounting for consciousness?

I'm often left with the intuitive sense that the real illusion is the maya-spell that the dream of reality is not a dream.

I'd even go so far as to say that panpsychism is in play

Is it possibly your intention here to create polemic, rather than engage in respectful debate?

Still, I'm getting the impression that as long as there is an ongoing dismissing of a coherent explanation of consciousness as being of no significant...

Gotta love those halcyon days of so-called 'free' love and pre-prohibition, paranoia-free psychedelics. Back on topic ... Your question just triggered...

Hey, I'm old enough to claim to be an original hippie, so you can't pull the flower-power garland over my eyes.

Or, if one is to go with Idealism, it is the Cosmic Mind that conceives of the idea of matter, and a finite locus of that mind that experiences it as ...

Hey, I know it's not an easy job, and often quite thankless ... been there, done that. And I trust that there's generally good will, as well as the wi...

That the mods aren't all on the same page in their interpretation of guidelines just speaks to my point that there is some inconsistency in the applic...

To be fair, there would appear to be some inconstancy in the application of this guideline. For example, this post 'CERN Discovers that the Universe O...

I'm not sure I can make sense of this. Who or what is conscious of a material world? This would seem to imply two categories, mind (subject) and matte...

There is a subsection titled Science and Technology. If it's not appropriate to ask such a question there, then I have no idea why not.

You might want to check out Donald Hoffman, a cognitive scientist who attempts to make consciousness theory congruent with evolutionary theory, with h...

I'd suggest that consciousness remains scientifically mysterious in that the physicalist explanation for it as being an epiphenomenon of brain activit...

One thing many of these ideas about the soul have in common is that they still depend upon being comprised of some energetic or aether-like substrate....

Hmm ... at $100-plus Cdn for a hard copy, I'll have to pass, unless there's some less-expensive, less-than-material (ha,ha) source available in cybers...

I suppose for many contemporary metaphysicians, Kastrup included, the issue with Berkeley, and others, is precisely that he brings those 18th century ...

Thanks for that edification, as it is clearly a critical distinction. Again, I'm not intending here to definitively defend Kastrup's model, which he m...

Well Kastrup posits that the 'world' of Ideas, in the platonic sense, does indeed still exist absent a finite locus of mind, insofar as it immanently ...

I could be misconstruing your worldview, but it would appear to be a QM interpretation that is still clinging to the materialist premise that there is...

So says a conscious observer. Again, I repeat the question: What exactly is a measurement absent a conscious agent to calculate a measurement from the...

From what I've gleaned from your other contributions in this thread, and elsewhere in the forum, I feel we probably agree on more than that upon which...

You're of course welcome to your subjective opinion. Sure, Kastrup may be thinking outside the academic boxes, however, I would expect that if Idealis...

Oh dear, it seems we've succumbed to the fate of discussion forums ... conflict-mode. Still somehow I can't ignore QM's redefining of the word 'observ...