I agree, and the conclusion which needs to be drawn is that there is inconsistency between what we observe as the reality of space and time, and the w...
The substance of our disagreement seems to be the following. I think that if physical objects are real (not simply ideas), then the relations between ...
In the thought experiment, the allotted amount of time cannot pass. The switch must complete an infinite (endless) cycle of on/off before the allotted...
That's exactly right. And as I told Michael, way back, in the beginning, if the rules allow for zero importation from the "real world", (which is dist...
Rid yourself of breakfast altogether. Have a coffee on the run, because there is so much that you want to do today, as every day, when you're a slave ...
The theory of recollection is a very small aspect of Plato's writing. And, where it is displayed in the Meno, it is a matter of interpretation as to w...
I tend to agree with this. Fooloso4 has a very hardened way of looking at Plato. It appears like an opinion of Plato as useless. But to make that argu...
Hooray! I'm going to go celebrate. Care to join me for a glass of champagne? Fuck the queen, or the biscuit, or whatever you're talking about, let's j...
No, I mean they are inconsistent. To be consistent with the rules is to act according to the rules. Actions which are outside of the rules are not acc...
The reason why physical collections are different from sets, in this way, is that physical objects are different from intelligible (including mathemat...
This doesn't make sense. Each flip of the coin is an individual act, and it has a single outcome. Once the outcome is achieved, that outcome stands un...
The claim was directed at your example of choosing a direction at a fork in the road. The only way that you could have multiple possible outcomes is b...
See, you actually do believe in the reality of such relations, you just do not understand the nature of the existence of that relationship. As I said,...
Have you read how these differences are explained in the Metaphysics, especially Bk3, ch4 and BK13, ch6? The issue I think, is that all of the differe...
Then why isn't Plato's way the proper way? There's no need to determine the dog which eats the most or the dog which eats the least, just keep feeding...
"Relation" refers to what the one has to do with the other, what I described as orbiting and you described as corkscrewing. If the things (E&M) are re...
I told you numerous times, "relation" is what one thing has to do with another. Please quit accusing me of not answering. I don't see any reason for t...
Do you not agree, that in De Caelo Aristotle begins by agreeing with those who promote it, explaining that eternal circular motion is a valid concept,...
I've read some speculations showing that the hottest temperature will actually end up being the same as the coldest temperature. Strange. If that's th...
That is the lowest temperature realizable from our methods of measurement. In other words it is a restriction created by our choice of dog to use for ...
I think we have to look at context here. What is our subject of discussion, what are we talking about here? Are we talking about things (individuals),...
You have a hidden element here, known as freedom of choice. The "multiple possible outcomes" are only the result of this hidden premise, you have free...
Consider this example, suppose we want to set a scale to measure all possible degrees of heat in the vast variety of things we encounter, a temperatur...
No, I recognize that the earth and the moon are doing things, and that their activities are related. You apparently recognize this to, by describing i...
I did some quick Google research for you, and dug up the following. References are at the bottom. What is called "Metaphysics" is a collection of work...
What do you mean i haven't made clear the essence of this third category. I've stated it over and over, it is the relations between things, what one t...
There is no general statement about how much all dogs eat. It is explicitly stated "every dog eats a different quantity of food", and " There are no l...
The definition of "relation" I already told you, "what one thing has to do with another". The definition of "Idea" is more difficult, my OED says "a c...
I apprehended it as needing clarification, not as inaccurate. Therefore I did not judge it as inaccurate, I judged it as requiring clarification. Your...
Yes, Plato's dog is the point of comparison, the paradigm we might say, and this is the basis of measurement. Doesn't mathematics start with the unit,...
I can see how starting (in this case at a dog), is a limitation, because the start produces a particular perspective. However, this is not a limitatio...
I think this is something which really needs to be respected when talking about "Platonism". For the most part, Plato, following the Socratic method, ...
Good start tim. Maybe a few more acts of clarification, and I might be able to understand what you are asking. Here's the problem. You take a couple s...
That's a difficult question, concerning a difficult subject. Space and time were not well understood back then, and still aren't. Notice even today, t...
I believe that what Parmenides does with the sail metaphor is convert Socrates' temporal description to a spatial description. By the temporal descrip...
This is exactly the case. Plato, in his mind/body distinction claims that the body, along with its sensations misleads us, away from the good. The goo...
I believe that the principal way which we distinguish objects is with the sense of sight. We see boundaries which mark the edges of things, and when a...
What are you saying now, that both things and their relations exist independently of the ideas which represent them? If you agree that both the moon a...
They're not totally disordered though. At any time you can state the position of each one relative to the others, and that's an order. When you say "t...
To be clear, I said there is activity which is described as "the moon orbits the earth", and that this activity exists. Anyway, I think I'm starting t...
Just to humour you Tones, I read this post. So here's a question for you. When you state the law of identity as "a thing is identical with itself", wo...
Plato is right. By definition #2, there are no physical limitations. A dog that eats the most, and a dog that eats the least implies two physical limi...
As usual, you're making things up to suit your purpose. "Dense order" is a property of the elements of sets, commonly numbers, and never "points". Poi...
Oh yes, I forgot to answer your question, I know you dislike that. Your act of limiting possible answers to two choices, "thing or idea", imposes a re...
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