So you deal with this activity which is not governed by rules, by restricting your definition of "language-game", such that ostensive learning is not ...
Read carefully 34-36. Notice at 35 he describes how there is no bodily action which has a necessary relation with "I mean the shape", or the colour. N...
The terminology used was "about the past", not "of the past". and I explained to you why all such memories are "about" the past here: https://thephilo...
This is all irrelevant to the point I was making to Harry, which was that memories are of things past, and anticipation is of things future. Harry wan...
Seeing as you have to qualify your claim that these memories have nothing to do with the past with "other than that...", and you actually recognize th...
isn't that what this thread is about, that physical vs. non-physical stuff. The point is, that when I consider a form which I remember, I believe that...
Therefore, we have "the measure problem". Doesn't it make sense to rid our mathematics of such illogical axioms? When we realize that such things are ...
I mean an emptiness within, a hole. Have you never experienced anxiety? Sure, anticipation takes a form, but there are physical forms and non-physical...
Wittgenstein can use words in a peculiar way, as we've now seen with "game". So it is important not to take any such thing for granted, and bring out ...
The Aristotelian position is that all physical things, animate and inanimate, consist of the dual aspects, matter and form. So unless you equate form ...
Yes, how Joe is thinking about it is different, because how Joe learnt it is different. He didn't learn how to play the game by learning the rules of ...
Functionally? Of course it's the same functionally. Joe can play the game. We're not discussing whether it's different functionally, we agree that it'...
If, having unread books lying around is a problem for you, making you feel guilty for not reading them, re-gift them. Then they're not wasted. If the ...
I told you, rules are generalities, individual possibilities are particulars. So for instance the rule states that the bishop may only move diagonally...
Consider that Wittgenstein has been arguing that one must already know some sort of language-games prior to being able to learn words ostensively. The...
If it's from the past, then it relates to the past, and is therefore "about", meaning "concerning" the past. Consider that at that time in the past, y...
I am saying that he would not know the rules, even though he learned how to play chess. He'd know possible moves, and knowing possible moves, and bein...
Right, and when you have them memorized, and are capable of recalling them, weren't they necessarily given to you in the past. Therefore the memory of...
That's exactly the point, I can learn the possible moves without learning rules. It wasn't an analogy, I was just demonstrating that learning the poss...
We went through this recently on a different thread. Let's say that "set" is defined as a "well-defined collection", as Wikipedia suggests. A "collect...
"Infinite set" is self-contradictory. "Infinite" implies unbounded, and set implies "bounded". To say that there is an infinite set is like saying tha...
No, these things are not "composed" of sensory representations. In fact, my anticipation is more like a void of such, a nothingness, where I feel ther...
You could have these, but this implies that your primary division is passive/active rather than mind/matter. Analysis will indicate that you have no d...
It's a matter of knowing possible moves, rather than a matter of knowing rules. The two are distinct. For instance, I know that these possible actions...
What about something like the way that AI learns, just by observing? I don't think it will do anything outside of what has been observed, but it amass...
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Ha, ha, Harry had me so focused on the things within the mind, that I forgot about the most important thing, the thing...
"Sensory representations" is only a part of what's in the mind. There are also memories and anticipations. I agree that it doesn't make sense to talk ...
I agree, a "kind of sentence" is a representation of a kind of usage. A language-game is an activity, and he is talking about different kinds of activ...
Again, I don't like nitpicking, (but it is sometimes necessary to get through to the true meaning). At 23, Witty clearly asks "But how many kinds of s...
We start with one whole, "reality". We either divide this whole according to the two categories of mind and matter, or we divide this whole according ...
Did you reply to my post without reading it? As I said in that post: To accept Aristotelian dualism rather than Cartesian dualism, is to dismiss the l...
Do you not agree, that exposing "basic premises", analyzing them for meaning, and determining the differences in belief which exist between us, at thi...
First, we've dismissed Cartesian dualism, so there is no premise of "nonphysical existents". We have no division between physical and non-physical in ...
The reason why Aristotelian dualism is more advanced, and therefore more appealing, than Cartesian dualism is that it divides reality between the more...
After #7 he distinguishes different language-games. For instance, at #8 he describes "an expansion of language (2)". But he later distinguishes the la...
Right, that's what I've been trying to explain to those people who have been suggesting that we could sense what the chair is made of, matter. We can'...
So I assume, that when Wittgenstein says at 33, "you must already be master of a language in order to understand an ostensive definition", he means "m...
In relation to "rules", I agree that it is too early for a discussion of Wittgenstein's position, but in relation to "games", I do not agree. "Languag...
Right, to define something is to state an idea. It doesn't indicate whether the defined thing could be observed or not - go figure. It is the claim th...
No, those are deductions made from observations. How would you sense that the chair is composed of wood, plastic, a seat, or legs? It makes a lot of d...
I can see that one, or both of us, misunderstands what Ikolos was saying. I can restate what I was saying though. I said that qualities can be quantif...
That's just an idea though, an assumption, not an observation. You are claiming, to paraphrase, "anything that occupies space and has weight is matter...
If you're still lurking Sam26, please notice that this passage is completely inconsistent with what our interpretation has provided for us, up to this...
As I said, and provided examples for, some divisions of degree are arbitrary, I didn't say that all are arbitrary. But the fact that some are, is all ...
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