Txastopher

As has repeatedly been explained here, this is a problem for vegans, not for me. I don't claim that sentience is the guiding principle of a dietary mo...

Pain, suffering, happiness etc. are all learnt conceptual terms associated with subjective human experience. We make an inference by analogy that sinc...

Utter bollocks.

What does this even mean?

We evolved to do all sorts of things, but it does not follow from this that we should do them. Indeed, we evolved to be able to consciously evaluate o...

Life provides multiple status markers and cues. If a male individual is unfortunate enough lack an attractive body, an able mind, money and adequate g...

Actually it's predicated on an anthropocentric hierarchy which grades acceptability of consumption according to evolutionary proximity to humans. This...

Although I have no ethical qualms about killing and eating either since I'm an omnivore, all the arguments that can be made for not killing animals ca...

Look, it would be unethical of me not to remind you that you are suffering from a messianic eating disorder with extreme grandiosity. Seek professiona...

As an omnivore, this research has no ethical consequences. However, for vegans it is extremely problematic. Clearly, they will wish to err on the side...

Add this to your Google Drive. https://books.google.es/books?hl=en&lr=&id=8HOeCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PR5&dq=Plant+Sensing+and+Communication&ots=YWjzxLh43_...

Floristry is murder.

There is very interesting recent research regarding plant sensitivity that demonstrates their abilities to learn, communicate and remember. For non-ve...

Regarding gender being whatever you feel it to be, if I feel 27 years old, but am actually 52, am I 27?

SherlockH, if you're genuinely interested in the health benefits of animal products in diet, it's probably best to look elsewhere than a cherry-picked...

I've already detailed my reasons and habits regarding meat eating upthread. Also, since just about everything you've produced on this thread is nonsen...

Vegans, if I were to be on the point of killing a cow, would you kill me to save the cow?

I hope not! I'm sure that many people would potentially like to give up animal products, but would hesitate if they thought they might be classed as v...

Can you unpack this a little, please?

I'm a hedonist. My life project and that of the animals I eat, or potentially eat me, are in conflict, yes. Also, by having close friendships with a f...

This would depend on the strength of the analogy between humans and other animals, which, as has been shown multiple times on this thread, is far from...

I find that Trait Theory provides a pretty good account of the phenomena of why individuals don't behave in entirely predictable and logical ways. Whe...

Where did this come from? No. Kill neither? = Cool, but, Kill neither because you hold that the philosophical bases of veganism to be true? = logical ...

People choose to suffer in all sorts of ways, it's sometimes known as asceticism. What appears to differentiate the individuals in the OP's example is...

There seems to be a distinction to be made between 'more ethical than' and 'the most ethical'. Vegans seek to achieve the most ethical consumption pos...

What a terrible waste of pomposity.

Sounds like a bad case of determinism.

See, now you're a non 'atheist'. Welcome!

This is true, but it may just demonstrate that some individuals always gravitate towards asceticism and find it hard to empathise with those who don't...

The fairy at the end of my garden who created the universe has told me that you are the messenger of Satan.

OK. So if I could show you that, by your own definition, meat consumption satisfies a baseline necessity then you would adapt your position?

In terms of evidence, and thus reason to engage in argument regarding the existence of either, there is none for either entity. Debating the existence...

If it were the case that meat were necessary, would you condone its consumption? If yes, what do you consider to be baseline necessity?

This division is a vestigial contingency derived from the status quo from which it emerged. It is not a necessary division. An atheist is one who atte...

I was going to ask the same thing. Sounds ominously like 'equality'.

Why use the term, 'atheist' at all? There are all sorts of things I don't believe, but I don't require a term for my disbelief in them. By describing ...

One explanation is that there is no other.

It's not the same because I am an avowed speciesist so I don't have a problem in placing my needs and wants before those of animals. In the first case...

For example, I can accept that animals suffer and that we should attempt to minimise suffering whenever possible without needing to recur to ever more...

You have already said that, in exceptional circumstances, you do "condone or support the exploitation of animals" so you are speciesist. My point was ...

Well, you would either need to attempt to show why this (not difficult) or any other premise is wrong. If you insist on merely saying that you don't a...

I'll take that as a yes. So we have established that both carnivores and vegetarians are speciesist albeit to differing degrees. That leaves utilitari...

By accepting some of the basic premises.

In principle, is there anything I could say that would convince you that you were behaving unethically?

How do you move from this to 'humans shouldn't eat meat because they don't need it?' Also would you accept that if I could establish a 'need', then it...

If you're happy with a war of attrition, you can use the rhetorical strategy of repeatedly demanding that your interlocutor do all the work in the hop...

So you admit to speciesism?

If humans wish to eat other animals and wish to justify their consumption, then they can't just say it's okay to eat animals since humans are animals ...

I applaud your dogmatism.

I'm repeating myself, but, unless I'm missing something, your participation in a market for dead animal products clearly does have an effect on the nu...