Carlo Roosen

Can you (Wayfarer or anybody else) please explain why the two sentences are opposite and not the same? noAxioms and I don't seem to get it solved toge...

Yes and I should reformulate that. My real question is, would it work in humanities best interest or would it go after its own interest. I do think it...

That is already true because the uncertainty principle states that we cannot know both the position and speed of a particle with perfect accuracy. Thi...

With a follow-up here: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/939523

Strange. Here is my question: The "rephrase" I gave seems to me identical to what you say, literally a rephrasing. But my version leads to a contradic...

ok enough is enough. You are not discussing, you are just repeating and not trying to understand things in context.

again, first read carefully before you comment. It is all there.

choice = "01" , that is: doubt Then in this case the system to select a direction in a pseudo-random way, by selecting left or right from a previously...

Please also answer my question.

Again, you are not replying to what is written. Just repeating. a = measureDistance("left") b = measureDistance("right") if a > b then choice = "right...

If you redefine doubt as a "situation of uncertainty", you can implement a software program that handles uncertainty, no problem, that is my "01". The...

Let's see it in context. You started by saying: noAxioms pointed out that we might be able to do that without: All he is saying is that there exists a...

I did not try to repeat your argument, I said on one end you shove "experience" in and at the other end "mind" comes out. You cannot deny that. It is ...

That is because experience is in your definition, and you do not accept my example. That is all fine, but it shows how thin the ice is your theory is ...

With an IQ test for humans or adapted for a computer. There is tons of ideas for that.

Again, you are reacting emotionally without really trying to understand what I am saying. I am not your enemy, I try to make your idea more clear and ...

yes, and this does not have to be how the brain actually works. ok, that was too loosely defined. "If it shows intelligence (in the objective and prag...

Look, you shove a term "experience" in your definition of doubt, and end up with a proof of "mind" at the other end. And you do this without explicite...

Of course he knows, he's a computer scientist. He most likely means that we can try out different ideas until it starts thinking in a way that we like...

That opens a can of worms. Okay, let others continue this. I've done what I can.

Hope you still find a second because to me these two are the same, I just removed a pair of negations: That is to say, it passed a point where they do...

One of the things that you need to make clear is whether doubt requires consciousness. You use the word "experience" in your definition, so it seems, ...

One of the challenges on this forum is that people are not actually reading the responses of others, to the point that they really try to understand i...

Using your definition.

Then here our discussion ends because I also explained why this is not valid, you can perfectly have a state 'doubt' defined in a deterministic system...

Only more modern program languages have "undefined" as a possible value for variables. Machine code hasn't

You need to be more careful with your argumentation. You cannot just say the opposite of what I said. I gave an explanation of what I meant, you didn'...

In my program there is a memory location reserved. It contains data. The interpreter or compiler has a check and generates an error if you want to pri...

So, why can't it be part of a deterministic system? The code example I gave is deterministic.

define x for a = 1 to 1000000000 y = y + 1 / a next a x = 2 + y x is "in doubt" while calculating y

I don't agree. "in doubt" can also be a state.

My point is that you are not specific enough. You'll need to define more precisely what you are doing. Including some calculations of the processing t...

My hypothesis is that language plays a key role in thinking. With "I love sushi" I have some debate about that, there are people without language abil...

I went back to your definition in the OP, and based on that, of course, I have doubts. Right now, for example: Should I respond to your post and have ...

That says it all

I think we're getting close to an agreement on the topic. I am talking about a pragmatic definition of intelligence, you are talking about an understa...

But you'll agree with me that intelligence is visible, where consciousness is not. Generally we will agree on the level of intelligence we observe. To...

I already did. Chess programs and ChatGPT. They have some level of intelligence, that is why we call it AI. And they have no conciousness, I agree wit...

Yes I don't think that is off topic, I'd like to discuss that further. But isn't the burden of proof on you, to prove that intelligence and consciousn...

Yes, good catch, maybe I am pretending I have no doubts but actually I do have them. Have to think about that, I'll come back to you.

Do you think I am joking or what? No it was a member on the forum, not AI. I will share his name with the mods, not here online. And I do have a scree...

These are the messages I get "Please shove your attitude where the sun don't shine. I've read your posts recently. If you're on drugs, stop immediatel...

My advice: let a few volunteers guide new members for the first few weeks. I'm happy to help, once I am fully accepted as "crazy enough to keep". Also...

Next step is to work it out in a table, a diagram or in pseudocode, with the number of bits for each step. Maybe you found some magical loophole, but ...

I believe this is the point Skalidris is making: it is not about the advances in science. Even defining consciousness leads to problems. I personally ...

I love to discuss this topic, but not here. Is there a way to turn the level of pragmatism up a bit, so we can get a better insight in the direction A...

1 yes and 2 no. I believe the two of us are talking about the same thing. But most people, and especially everybody I've seen here so far, seems to ta...

No question is simple here. I explained what I call a doubt. I don't have a doubt, and I do not always have answers.