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The only way for me to be correct about my own interpretations/applications of the Trinity, and for you to confirm the general thrust, is if there was...

You are talking about two pieces of art that are identical but each not made to mimic or fake the other. That would be a crazy coincidence of two “gen...

I answered clearly. Yes, the woke can ignore the ad. But this rephrase of the question is a bit more. Do I think American Eagle is innocent? - of fost...

You said it yourself. These are both genuine.

So your discussion is about "what is the thing in itself that is called a fake" What makes a fake a fake? So you have a Cactus in a pot, and separatel...

But there's that elephant. There is the substance of what you wrote. When I moved my eyes, I saw your words, no other. So in order not to seem totally...

Cause: I make a point. Effect: others can think about it if they choose to. ADDED: Me: There's an elephant in your room. Can you see it over there? Yo...

If your point is that I have no reason to censor others - why make that point if the reason I have no reason to censor others is because making a poin...

In order to get a fake fake, you have to highlight a ontological difference between an object in itself, and the person who perceives that object. To ...

You. And me, and everyone in whatever debate is the issue. Then it becomes policy, or not, depending on all of us. But if you don't believe speech can...

1. As far as the federal government limiting what the federal agencies do and say - that is called: how it works. That has nothing to do with speech r...

What are you talking about - anything that comes out of a rich white man’s mouth is white supremacy. Right? Like the stupid jeans ad is white supremac...

What is a person? Do I call myself a person? Do any of us call ourselves people? I just said “I call myself.” But “I call myself” sounds like two peop...

In the sense that God is everything - God is the “in” and “with” of all things. But in the sense that each separate thing is separate from each other ...

No. Three persons who each are God, is one God. That’s unique information.

No difference between us - theists just suck at forming coherent sentences. We still believe in coherent sentences. We just find there are messages th...

We come to know God but seeing him in others. We come to do God’s work by doing good for others. We can know the Trinity. We just have to put our calc...

I want to be a member of the tribe. I hope I am. There is one tribe now, but it still goes back to Abraham and is his as well.

Saying that the Trinity is a deep mystery says this as dogma “whether you understand it or not, this is the faith”. It doesn’t say “you can’t understa...

The word was God is like “Superman can fly.” Or “Clark Kent is Superman.” It’s content. It’s about the world. It is what is, like “I am”. The word was...

I cannot come to know any person by reason alone. Not you, not Banno, not my children. I cannot come to know many things by reason alone. But knowing ...

That’s not true at all.

That is Catholic as well. Faith without acts is dead. The kingdom of God is now.

:up: None of that need be about ‘Lois believes that..’. It is all about clarifying the identical. ‘Opacity’ points to ‘difference’ (one shielded by op...

Bumped into this clip from 30 plus years ago. Shows a lot. - The fact that woke issues/analysis was so precisely tuned by 1993 shows how the woke atti...

Yes, but they are analogous. Like logical immediacy in the Trinity is analogous to temporal immediacy in eternity.

Yes. But the trinity is not a math/logical problem. If you make it one, and see that as a threshold issue to making the Trinity anything else, it will...

Before there is a son, there has to be a father. So the son comes after a father. And for something to proceed from a son, the son comes first and wha...

Neither does the set of all sets. I will never stop believing in sets either, nor need an alternative. (I’m sure you could show me how analogizing Rus...

There is plenty of mysticism to be had here. But, although linear, more readily analytic reasoning, may seem remote in some of these sentences, it is ...

I know he said that. I disagreed with him. Yes. Well, yeah, but… Jesus became a man first, and then died on the cross. The father didn’t do that. So i...

Exactly. Nothing, that we say we know (so nothing that we say we believe because all things we believe we also know) is divorced from reason. We can o...

I think there is an explanation of the many instances of “is” in the Triune God. I can provide some of them. Count and Leon have provided some. But I ...

Agreed. There is a lot of misperception: - the OP said God became man and died on a a cross to save us…from his own wrath. The “from his own wrath” mi...

Right.

They should. Sounds like part of the method that an analytic would use to guard against essentialism, for instance. We approach knowing, but never ful...

I think we agree. It only strains credulity when all you believe to be credible is what comes through natural reason. I don’t. I trust is many things ...

Yes, legit questions. But you didn’t ask them in a way that sounded like you thought you could possibly get an answer. You asked potential lobotomy pa...

Right, which is why I am suspicious of this thread here on a philosophy forum instead of a theology forum. It gave license to performance art and mock...

I am willing to start over with no hostility on an honest answer about whether “the Catholic Church holds the Trinity to be beyond human understanding...

Yeah, that was weird. This post has been sarcastic, jaded, ironic from the start. It almost became a discussion between two sides of an issue a couple...

Ok. But is that all it is? I am not being contrary. Complementary yes, but not contrary. (And not complimentary just yet. :joke: ). Just because analy...

Definitely! :rofl: Divine enough for me that you thought to post that. :up: Seriously though, Earnest has a bit of perfection in it. God strikes again...

Oh Banno - you are always more interested in talking about talking, rather than in what is actually being said. Turning every subject into the same di...

Feel what way? What feeling am I talking about? Who is reciprocating on this thread?

Maybe. I don’t know.

That’s enough. I can let someone have that. If they then want to ask about it and ask me how I believe it, and what I believe, I get the perplexity. B...

I agree with that 100%. And you said it well as usual. I also do not think it contradicts any of the above for me to say this: But it was imprecise, a...

First of all, I think I differ a bit (slightly) from @"Leontiskos" and maybe @"Count Timothy von Icarus". I do think, in some senses, the Trinity, and...