No you didn’t. You said this: That defines the problem. That doesn’t address anything. Wokeness eats the woke, and has no principle upon which to adju...
How so? I think I’ve made quite a few specific points, and provided support. I am primarily interested in you showing me some point you think I am mak...
Athena - you and me would need a week long seminar together with lots of speakers assisting us to sort through our positions and identify all of the f...
Why do we need to change the topic? How are you going to make any significant point about woke and how does it refute what I said about woke being con...
Equity is good. Racism and sexism are bad. I, a conservative traditional person, agree. (Of course I do.) I also agree that liberalism is the greater ...
No. Dude - I am not writing a brief. I am just talking. Woke social justice contradicts itself in theory, and in practice. Either the feminists or the...
Everything new comes from somewhere. The kid is responsible for what he thinks and does too. Are we not each individuals, responsible for our own live...
:up: I would love it if anyone around here could make the case on behalf of the woke. My friends, what is not problematic about woke in principle? Any...
That just means the taxpayers aren’t going to be forced to pay for whatever the college wants to say and promote. It has zero impact on freedom. If Co...
Ok I take that back. How about all 50 other points? That’s is insulting, right? I mean yeah, I like parrots and yeah I’m pretty stupid, but you don’t ...
That’s how I hold a discussion, how I debate. But then we have to elect leaders. Then we have to pick a platform (pick a team) and play fair to make a...
:up: Those added to my examples too. Too many examples of woke stifling, or just unjustly responding to, speech. And what is happening in the UK is un...
The point is the left is way, way better at hate. Hate is an important ingredient to leftism. The democrat candidate for governor in Virginia tells ev...
Do you deny the Left hates MAGA? Do you deny hatred from the left is behind all of the protests and assaults and deaths and billions in property destr...
Are you saying leftists don't hate the Maga? What is your point? Tell me how it really is. I am not Maga. Never was. I had to vote for Trump because.....
Right wingers want to talk ideas at a university (you know, a university, where ideas are talked about and minds are supposed to be challenged). https...
I believe he thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist. So yeah, probably. But it’s not important. The shooter wasn’t playing politics anymore was he? If you...
Ok, so that sounds like woke propaganda. Since when did Americans think the US government should control the content of the education of our children?...
@"Mijin" was saying woke is just a word used to scare people. That woke is not a real thing. I disagree with that. I’m saying if woke wasn’t a real th...
Why not just comment on what I say and not conjecture about where you think it comes from? (Probably because you think anything that even sounds like ...
Hmmm. :chin: Lots of things from lots of different directions. Did you see SB 771 in California? Fairly woke side fascist move. And a more concrete fa...
Ok. I know Trump and Christians, and old white men are authoritarian and they hate free speech. Those arguments are loud and clear. If that is what yo...
How about, ‘race sex and power as among the top factors’? Seems like you are basically agreeing with me. “Systemic” - we should work that concept into...
A new topic. Avoids the issue. It’s ok to call someone fascist. If they are fascist. But get us back on track. You really need to deal with this: That...
But is the question whether “woke” is clearly defined? That’s what you want to talk about. Without pointing to any definition at all! I am trying to s...
Nicely done. No such thing as woke. No way to define it. It doesn’t mean anything. Got it. Keep losing elections, and hoping people shoot more fascist...
What’s wrong with that? The thread must have two dozen viable senses of “woke” at this point. Like anything else, crystal clear definitions are hard e...
Absolutely not. That would require me to be speaking in bad faith. So thanks again for that assumption. It’s just, me and Jeremy and many others on th...
Me too! :razz: Toronto? Yes indeed! Hope so for both of us! And Schwenksville - that’s crazy! Been there myself. That’s the home of the annual Philly ...
That is the closest you’ve come to just saying you are a progressive. I appreciate the openness. You are right. What I said above was imprecise. I sho...
Gotta admit, there are people who misjudge, and therefore abuse, the Kirk situation from both sides. But the vast majority of people on the right see ...
Yes, I’m an American. From Philadelphia - the cradle of liberty. The US’s Democrat/ Repub division of the political parties does seem to be fairly uni...
Could the same point be made by saying instead “Hume uses anthropology/psychology to justify his skeptical positions.”? This leaves open the question ...
Which, ironically, makes experience something of a miracle. Can you explain that further? Maybe Hume just didn’t get into it? But I could see our expe...
Nothing. What makes the notion of “legitimate” coherent and applicable divorced from reason? Nothing. If you believe as Hume does that constant conjun...
I’m guessing the above isn’t quite what you were trying to inspire? :joke: I appreciate the spirit. I think you are reifying empathy a bit much. “Coll...
I agree. Too often any discussion platform becomes shout down, shut out, (even duck and seek cover it seems). Everyone is too comfortable with the pol...
I thought you wanted to separate out the politics. I’m baffled myself. Well, morality is entwined in every human interaction. But we can separate thin...
I think it should be clear by now that speech isn’t always political. You can do other things besides debate using words, like giving commands to shoo...
Ok, so just be sure we are eye to eye, in the former phrase “speech that dehumanizes and incites physical violence” you are more interested in address...
I wish - sign me up. I like @"180 Proof" answer - dancing. Just force yourself to act joyous, listening to a favorite jam, and gratitude and laughter ...
Totally true. you do have some ‘splaining to do. On the other thread you would never have said this: You do realize “to incite” is “to cause”. So I ag...
:up: That shows one of the disconnects between progressive intentions and the actual effects of progressive policy on hate speech. There are others. S...
I did understand that, and so I should have said in my last post “so let me put the legal status of ‘hate speech’ to bed, and show why I agree with yo...
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