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I've thought about it a lot, for a couple of years now. Kant is talking about noumena as assumed objects. Pretyt clearly.

Maybe this is more toward the restrictive version Wayfarer has made sure I stick to. That meaning, what i've said relates to the fact that for humans ...

Yes, I do. One of several related works. I agree, maybe. But I think it's likely, rather than a coin toss. I am on drugs. What kind of logic is it tha...

I appreciate you attempting something of hte kind. Unfortunately, they factually, objectively have not answered this. They have claimed I said somethi...

Are you totally sure? I've not read the proceeding conversation, but this seems to be a little bit off the mark to me. We don't, generally, look at a ...

In reverse: That's true and entirely uninteresting and changes nothing about what Meta and I have said. You're right - there could be no differentiati...

"possible". I certainly give that some air, but I do not think that's right. We lose weight at the moment of death, certain functions cease, capabilit...

:ok: Good encapsulation This too.

Thanks for that! I was aware of some of this, but not in any detail. Good reading - thank you! I think perhaps, like many, this leapfrogs what we want...

Probably stepping in it a bit, but this seems clearly wrong to me. If differentiation is literally just things existing aside from one another (at all...

Perhaps. I also didn't get into that misgendering is considered a discriminatory crime in California, if don't deliberately. That is ridiculous, but I...

There is literally a surge of brain activity during NDEs, typically gamma waves. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4576755/ - this paper is a m...

Yes, absolutely. It seems you've got a great handle on the ins-and-outs generally. Thanks for the exchange! Baked into the position is that it is no o...

What?

This is, again, either a lie, or you being so intensely dense you cannot read. I literally did not say what you're claiming. I never, once, at any tim...

I have addressed this. No it isn't. A plain reading shows this. The experiment comes from Parfit, not Star Trek. This is not controversial. Now this i...

:strong: Indeed. And with this knowledge, can we all come to terms? Noting that this doesn't deny either bigotry, or ideological absurdity.

1. If brain activity entirely ceased, it could not be restarted. Vegetative states are not death. That's key. 2. I am extremely well-informed about DM...

Very clear and precise. Thank you. I don't call that a self, but I think its what matters.

I differ - it seems both, to me. It's obviously unintuitive, but it is also unsatisfactory as it gives us no notion of self. It allows for 1:x without...

Please don't lie. What I said was this and you've provided absolutely nothing to move that needle. You cannot name a single 'suffering' i endure by yo...

You're very welcome - I will probably flesh it out with objections that I couldn't get to due to word count. Might post somewhere on the forum here on...

I don't know what you want here? You've posited three things I think require more than just some wishful thinking to obtain. THe brain is not entirely...

So, you say you've seen the ad. There is nothing normal, whatsoever, about how that person is behaving. Its like a childhood television presented. Its...

No. As explained, I am saying that a 'self' and an 'original work of art' are not comparable on a conceptual level, regardless of what might or might ...

I very highly agree with this, as a 3p. You both seem to accept that things existed before human minds. That's enough.

Err, I don't ... think ... that's happening. But nevertheless, if I;ve missed that, it's worth noting that what Star Trek does has zero bearing on the...

No. It is a literal description, which he says. Further, this simply illustrates what Im talking about. Shut the fuck up about it, and people will sto...

But it's not. A trans person behaving like that is 'woke'. And specifically, it's 'woke' because it was a cynical attempt at identity politics for sal...

I think perhaps you're missing a few tricks. We can explain everything we currently know without fairies. NDEs, specifically, are a world away from re...

Yes, but sort of at a higher level than seems we're on. I mean to say that you can't give a criteria for the 'self' to being 'self-same' isn't quite a...

Between a fake piece of art and a self? Not at all. If that was an impression I gave, I apologise. That is wrong-headed and doesn't support what I'm s...

I agree, but we do not entertain the idea of fairies beyond stoned bonfire chats (which are great, do not get me wrong. I love delving into speculativ...

I assume you mean if I don't know. Becauase there is absolutely no reason to entertain all comers. I will entertain theories with something (even a li...

You have devolved into someone not worth exchanging with. That's a shame, as some months back you were consistently contributing well across multiple ...

Yes, in a manner of speaking. I think you can successfully convey thought, but its incidental to two, separate, sets of similar-enough internal dictio...

I still don't think you'll get a particularly clear criteria unless its contextually baked in. I think conceptually, its really hard to say one way or...

Absolutely not. This is evidenced by the fact that non-white, gay, trans, weird people do things constantly, in all contexts and we only ever hear any...

I see you immediately devolve into insults and ad hominems. Interesting. I am telling you that you have said nothing that answers the question: What s...

I wouldn't speak for them. I reject it. I just don't know if its actually false. Thats all i can say, I think.

This is a weird one. I would want this for my loved ones, if they could accept the clone. Otherwise, I wouldn't accept it. Not at all. The answer can,...

You're identifying the wrong problem. The problem is that those who did respond jumped to 'Nazi'. "Overt eugenics". "white supremacy". No one has over...

Totally fair. If you have somewhere, I can send it directly to you. I think you're identifying a different issue (but a good one to discuss, for sure)...

That might be true, but I did specify structure. The structures (and their structure, if you see what I mean) is essentially identical between us. You...

Structure of our perceptual system is what we share. When that isn't shared Edit: Sorry mate, I hit submit by accident way before I was ready. Not try...

These rely on our reports of what they do to our perceptual system though. No instrument detects the 'red' humans do (and some humans don't, even on t...

Pretttttty much. But its a bit trickier than just that, because we must have an internal 'meaning' to utterances (at least their parts) before we can ...

The discussion stemmed from talk of what is 'real'. Some hold these views (possibly, most). We cannot ignore it. I find your response above emotionall...

I am not sure these are 'exceptions'. I rather think the Western, Enlightened model is the exception. That may lead to digression, so I'll just note t...

I see no reason to - so I want a reason to. We are here. All else is here. That's all I can find..