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I sympathize! I thought you yourself gave it the best interpretation, in your elucidation of the difference between affirming a statement and making a...

Could you say more about this? I’m not sure what sentence reification would be. No, you’re right. In part, this thread for me has been a process of cl...

I recommend we adopt this, for purposes of this discussion, as a reasonable consensus on “criteria of truth” etc. The huge potential area of disagreem...

Ahh, the light goes on. Got it, thanks.

This is super helpful, thank you. I want to mull over several points you make before responding. But for now, could you expand a little on this?: What...

Very interesting, and what you’re saying about it applies to a lot of issues, not just Roberts here with the separation of function and argument. To s...

I like the screwdriver analogy. ?The grass is green’ is all set, ready to go -- its "purpose" is what I'm calling its force -- but someone does have t...

Perhaps nothing more, in that simple case. But as this thread demonstrates, "assertion" gets used in some much more complicated and ambiguous contexts...

Right. In other words, by identifying the two extensional sets as the same, we're able to "make the assertion" that S is Richard's sister without any ...

@"Banno" @"Leontiskos" @"Srap Tasmaner" @"RussellA" @"fdrake" Whew, we’ve got the makings here of a solid weeklong conference on Frege and Kimhi! Impo...

Thanks. As I mentioned earlier, at some point I want to quote a few passages from Kimhi interpreting Aristotle and see if you, @"Count Timothy von Ica...

Well, as a Relativist, you are "relatively" young then!

Thank you. I know it's ridiculous in 2024 but I'm a child of the previous century and I need paper pages and lead pencils in order to think properly! ...

Good, that fits the Fregean picture. Yes, to the best of my understanding (with help from Kimhi). Cf. this from Notes on Logic: And cf. the elucidatio...

The lack of references and biblio is indeed annoying. You have to search through the footnotes. The ones for Greek scholarship (mostly re Aristotle) t...

Thank you. I've been trying to get ahold of a reasonably priced copy of the Armstrong book. Now I'll try harder.

Sure. But what I was trying to point out (or what I think Roberts means, anyway) is that “the universe of discourse” isn’t neutral or discoverable or ...

Yes! You’ve got it precisely, and have expressed it better than I did. Many thanks. The key difference is affirming a claim – that is, a statement -- ...

Excellent citations from Frege. My claim was twofold: 1) that predicate logic restricts what we can say about existence; and 2) we have to start with ...

But what is a "fictional assertion"? Isn't an assertion supposed to "judge p true"? Kimhi calls this case "assertion by convention" but I don't think ...

Small but crucial. Yes, I'm with you. And I'm especially pleased to see you emphasizing the difference between illocutionary force and (extensional) r...

Some sharp, interesting comments and questions here. Let me start with a quote from @"Srap Tasmaner" No, the way the we use terms like “force” doesn’t...

Thanks much. I admit to being daunted by the Thomistic apparatus, but that's my problem. Certainly a revisit with Aristotle's Metaphysics is in order....

Right, my argument is more that Frege fails to provide a way of dealing with certain features of assertion and its connection with thought or consciou...

Fun, for sure. Some go clubbing and do X, we worry about 'x'. :razz: (Some do both, no doubt.) But does it? Were you asserting it, just now when you w...

Yes, I think the ND review gets it right about Kimhi's debt to Wittgenstein, which he acknowledges. He sees Wittgenstein as a fellow "psycho / logical...

In a word, yes. Assertion as displaying illocutionary force is part of the "standard" picture. And the challenge here is about the nature of propositi...

Thank you, appreciate the references.

I'm glad to hear you're reading Kimhi -- not for the faint of heart! In fact you may find parts of it easier going than I did, due to your background ...

Yes, I had recourse to it several times in drafting my various posts about Kimhi. Much better than the Hanna piece.

Again, thanks for the response to my concerns. Two things: 1. My question about whether “on” was a logical connective only meant that I wasn’t aware o...

Thanks, this helps. "Representing" is describing in words, while "mirroring" is more like ostension or making a picture. I'm not satisfied with how th...

I appreciate your thoughtful response to this. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm going to try to write up a couple of specific examples of a Kimh...

Thank you, that gives a good context. I always approach the Tractatus with the (increasingly faint) hope that it will reveal its secrets to me, but it...

Hmm. Not quite sure I get this. Can you refer us to some passages in the Tractatus?

As this thread has shown, it's complicated. A great deal depends on whether the statement "There are a hundred thalers on the table" occurs in a conte...

Yeah, I'm trying to work up something like that for a fresh OP. The simple answer would be, "Providing some carrots and sticks to entice the horse bac...

Just saw this after posting my latest. Thanks, makes sense.

It's a direct answer, certainly. I was curious to learn more about what philosophers have said concerning the parallels between "truth" and "existence...

I don’t know. On questions like this, I find Kimhi at his most obscure. Typical statement: “The critical insight -- that any unity in consciousness is...

This is a little tricky. Doesn't it depend on exactly what we mean by "say 'p'"? I can write 'p' in this sentence, as in fact I do, and we know that i...

Yes, Kimhi believes this is important. He calls it an act of self-consciousness that follows an act of consciousness, and claims that it applies to an...

If by “bracket” you mean “declare them out of bounds when discussing predication,” then yes, there wouldn’t be much left to say about whether predicat...

For sure, and there's a great deal to be said for clear and minimal ontological commitments. Analytic philosophy does some excellent work by taking pr...

“Putatively existing” is indeed awkward, but – as you and Frodo explicated – it’s hard to find the right language in these situations. I meant what yo...

Appreciate the references, many thanks. Not to turn this into a Kimhi seminar, but he devotes an entire chapter of his book to this point. The chapter...

Right, it's predicating truth of "there are a hundred thalers on the table." This doesn't have to come up only in cases of questioning or doubt. It's ...

Good insights, thanks. I could indeed try to limit the question to one about formal logic, and it may turn out that the isomorphism between existence ...

I think you’d get a lot out of Kimhi’s book – I certainly have. It’s the most interesting work of contemporary philosophy I’ve read since Ted Sider’s ...

That's what I thought. Now, returning to the "is" of quantification, when we say "?(x)f(x)" we are not ascribing a property to f, namely the property ...