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OK, I'll posit that there is no non-philosophical way of raising the question of what philosophy is, or should be. Both Analytic and Continental philo...
October 09, 2024 at 21:53
An interesting topic. To be sure I'm understanding you, let me pose this question: Are you saying that the question of "philosophy proper" or "a prope...
October 09, 2024 at 13:39
So I assume, from your OP (welcome, by the way!) and from the responses of others, that non-human animals are persons too? Or have I missed something ...
October 09, 2024 at 13:21
OK, fair enough.
October 07, 2024 at 12:36
Just out of curiosity -- why would we want to talk about subjectivity in the first place, on your view? Is the talking meant to provoke in the listene...
October 06, 2024 at 21:06
The question I see being raised here is, "Are property rights always just?" Most of us would want to reply, No, not always. What counts as property, a...
October 03, 2024 at 16:26
Philosophy is for closers!
October 02, 2024 at 19:49
I like how you characterize Kimhi's viewpoint in T&B. It's the offbeat, alternate-history quality that, for me, is part of its striking originality. A...
October 02, 2024 at 14:14
Wow, great find. I had marked a few of these too, but most are new. Thank you!
October 02, 2024 at 14:07
Welcome to my world! :lol: I tried so hard to leave him out of the assertion challenge ("inspired by Kimhi"), for just that reason. But we're trudging...
October 01, 2024 at 13:20
Sorry, I should have provided references but, as I said, I wasn’t sure I was even on track with your OP. For Kierkegaard, I had in mind the Concluding...
October 01, 2024 at 13:13
I'm using two contexts to try to understand you: First, the Kierkegaardian questions about how a self can escape from rational objectification. Second...
September 30, 2024 at 22:25
Good post. And it helps me see another possible application of the force/content distinction. Compare "symbol" and "sign." This used to be the standar...
September 30, 2024 at 19:43
I think my OP explanation was barely "pretty good," but 20 pages later, your summary captures one important point. I could go back and count at least ...
September 30, 2024 at 13:25
That could well be true, and fits with your earlier point that Kimhi isn't (here) interested in being precise with terms. And ordinarily I'd just say,...
September 29, 2024 at 22:54
Ha, our comments overlapped. You picked up on the same question in the footnote.
September 29, 2024 at 21:46
This is starting to get hair-splitty, but yes, I would still say that an "assertoric force not limited to assertions" is either incoherent or, in some...
September 29, 2024 at 21:45
Do you mean that we (or some philosophers) are making claims about metaphysics without realizing that they are in fact only claims, from someone's poi...
September 29, 2024 at 20:51
This is fine, as long as we expand what a "sentence" is to include ostensive gestures and other "non-linguistic sentences." Anyone who's watched a tod...
September 29, 2024 at 12:23
By "dealt with" do you mean "resolved"? Surely not. If you only mean "recognized and discussed," then Kimhi, for one, would be the first to insist on ...
September 29, 2024 at 12:17
Both your responses allude to the difficulties I see here. Right, and why would anyone question that? Except that Kimhi and perhaps Rodl (I don't know...
September 28, 2024 at 22:22
OK, maybe I'm a bit previous here! Admittedly, we could be spending all the time we're spending on Kimhi because we want to figure out if he's got any...
September 28, 2024 at 20:36
Yes, that's the nub of the question I was raising with my statements (1) and (2). And (1) tries to do just that, hence my question -- who here is thin...
September 28, 2024 at 20:27
It's not you. Apparently some version of T&B had circulated for a long time and Kimhi didn't want to publish it but was finally persuaded. As I said s...
September 28, 2024 at 17:22
Section 2.2.2 is good overview of the Kantian debt, but it presupposes a certain reading of Frege that I'm trying to get clearer about. Do we all agre...
September 28, 2024 at 16:51
That's my reading too -- he's not using the judgment stroke merely to mark a purported truth. But how shall we characterize what he is doing? This is ...
September 28, 2024 at 16:21
It’s an interesting point. Would you agree that it’s possible to be illogical without knowing it, or meaning it? If so, then plenty of folk besides my...
September 28, 2024 at 15:28
@"Banno" @"Pierre-Normand" Great analysis of the Kimhi footnote from @"Srap Tasmaner" , above. It sets this up: From the viewpoint provided us by Srap...
September 28, 2024 at 14:22
About Hanna, I agree completely. This sort of bombast is part of why I disliked his review so much. But I quoted him to display an attitude which I th...
September 28, 2024 at 14:04
Schrodinger's cat: Unclear if it's alive or dead Banno's cat: Unclear if it's referentially determinate Kimhi's cat: Must be paired with a non-cat to ...
September 28, 2024 at 13:59
The idea of logic as normative crops up more in everyday speech, I would say. "You're not being logical!" is a normative reprimand; the idea is that a...
September 28, 2024 at 13:43
This question about having faith in Kimhi perhaps illuminates a significant difference in how we approach philosophy. I said in the OP that I was unsu...
September 27, 2024 at 21:12
Very good. Would you agree that both the VA and VN are attempts to capture some concept of objectivity? (read "intersubjectivity" in the case of VA)
September 27, 2024 at 11:48
I think the answer to your question lies in the first line Kimhi quotes from Evans, which begins: "The sense of a sentence, which is of course a funct...
September 26, 2024 at 20:23
I wouldn't try to alter your philosophical convictions -- there's too much of that already on TPF -- but I truly don't think platonism (including Freg...
September 26, 2024 at 19:59
You can go ahead and accuse me of platonism if you like! In this sense, which circles back to what you're saying about the World 3 nature of propositi...
September 26, 2024 at 17:28
Part of what makes their nature hard to grasp is that Kimhi insists on linking them with the laws of being. Or rather, he's trying to get us to think ...
September 26, 2024 at 17:10
Right. I don't think this would get you to "the same mistake." They're both failing to hear it as G, and they're both identifying the note mistakenly,...
September 26, 2024 at 16:49
Yes, assertion in the sense of judgment, but I wouldn't blame yourself much for any confusion. My OP didn't discriminate, because I hadn't taken on bo...
September 26, 2024 at 16:08
I agree, but it doesn't necessarily challenge Srap's point, it only insists on being more precise, which is all to the good. Can we think of an exampl...
September 26, 2024 at 15:51
Like @"banno" and @"frank", I believe this is right. The question, "How far can this analogy go?" is a good one. Perhaps we should say: It can go as f...
September 26, 2024 at 13:25
Excellent stuff here, thanks. I think what Kimhi means is: A symbolic occurrence would be when p is used as, quite literally, a symbol, such as when w...
September 26, 2024 at 13:20
I'm firmly with Kuhn here. I think there's close to zero chance that physicalism will turn out to be able to explain consciousness -- unless you just ...
September 25, 2024 at 19:41
I love this topic, but all I'll say here (it really needs its own thread) is that any plausible account of the view from nowhere would have to explain...
September 25, 2024 at 16:27
Yes, and Kimhi wants to do neither. He’s after a unity of thinking and being. And no, I still haven't completely grasped how he gets there. To that I ...
September 25, 2024 at 14:55
I think it is, very much so. The "view from nowhere," on Thomas Nagel's understanding, is precisely the longed-for objective view that, in this case, ...
September 25, 2024 at 13:55
The passage from Kimhi you cite was key to my OP. I appreciate your analysis. Interestingly, Kimhi seems to equate "Wittgenstein" with the Tractatus. ...
September 25, 2024 at 13:48
Me too.
September 25, 2024 at 13:38
Great references again, thank you. I've just gotten onto McDowell and Rodl, and now I can add Martin and Conant. That was the good thing about grad sc...
September 25, 2024 at 13:32
Good citations. Is it my imagination, or is Frege sounding a bit defensive here? He seems to recognize the shortcomings of his approach -- the awkward...
September 24, 2024 at 15:40