Agree-to-Disagree

Try reading what I quoted. Look at the graph that you posted and ask yourself, "has the rate of methane emissions been constant over the time period 1...

The big difference between you and me Frank, is that you are an optimistic pessimist, and I am a pessimistic optimist.

Yes Frank, I see what you are saying. The country that I live in is very efficient at producing lamb and beef, I am not sure if this is totally true, ...

Please read this article. Dr. Frank Mitloehner is one of the authors of this article. Quotes from the part with the title "Methane vs Biogenic Methane...

Fruits, nuts, chickens, and crops all require transport to market. Clearing the land and transporting things mostly uses non-biogenic carbon at the mo...

Can you not see that reducing biogenic carbon has very different effects to reducing non-biogenic carbon? A methane molecule is a methane molecule, an...

Mikie tried to imply that I am not an adult. I simply corrected him.

I think that the problem here is the phrase "contributing to global warming at all". It should be "contributing any additional global warming". Methan...

Biogenic carbon (e.g. CO2 and methane) does not make global warming worse. Non-biogenic carbon (e.g. CO2 from fossil fuels and methane from non-biogen...

Can you see the difference between 12 years and 12 million years? I am doing my best to have a great life !!! And before you accuse me of being selfis...

This article explains the relationship between biogenic methane and global warming. https://clear.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk7876/files/inline-fi...

Fossil fuels were formed over a very long period of time from what used to be biogenic carbon. The process of turning biogenic carbon into fossil fuel...

Many a true word is spoken in jest. The whole worlds biogenic carbon cycle must balance. It is not because of gravity, it is because of simple account...

Yes, all humans everywhere (not just cities) are part of the biogenic carbon cycle. Humans also use non-biogenic carbon (e.g. from fossil fuels like o...

Are you saying that young people (with little life experience) usually have more intelligence, wisdom, and knowledge than older people? I used to thin...

Yes, but plants and animals (and fungi) are all part of a cycle (the biogenic carbon cycle). So in the long-run the negatives from the animals have th...

I suspect that when I went back to university to do a 2nd degree you were probably still in nappies (or if you are American, still in diapers).

Please don't talk about Mikie like that.

In the country where I live beef, lamb, and dairy are very important industries. The government and the farmers have been arguing for at least 6 years...

They have been saying that we only have 10 years left for the past 40 years. Have you heard about the boy who cried "wolf".

Get a divorce and split things 50/50. :grin:

I think that you and I agree on about 99% of what we are talking about. But that doesn't make for an interesting discussion, so I am going to concentr...

The big problem is that economies and countries and people (farmers, etc) who depend on cows (beef, dairy, etc) are being punished for no good reason....

You don't seem to realize that if the number of cows has already been approximately constant for the last 12 years then the situation is already stabi...

It talks about livestock emissions and whether these emissions are actually a problem. The "problem" is that you won't look at anything that you don't...

IF you look then you will see that not all of the sources are meat companies. IF you read the sources then you might learn something. IF you can do th...

The first source from The University of California, Davis https://clear.ucdavis.edu/explainers/biogenic-carbon-cycle-and-cattle This webpage address a...

I gave you 2 other sources which are NOT meat companies. What don't you like about these 2 sources? This one is The University of California, Davis ht...

The carbon in fossil fuels accumulated over a long time and has been locked away from the atmosphere for a long time. Burning fossil fuels adds carbon...

I gave you 3 sources in total. The other 2 are NOT meat companies This one is The University of California, Davis https://clear.ucdavis.edu/explainers...

Please read this webpage to see information about your points (a) and (c) https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2021/december/beef-protein Look es...

https://www.goodmeat.com.au/environmental-sustainability/biogenic-carbon-cycle Cows (and other ruminant animals like sheep) are often linked to climat...

Please explain how cows increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. Point out the fault in this logic: - Atoms of carbon in the atmosphere are ta...

Not a farmer. I was a computer programmer / software tester for about 40 years. I had been reading about how cows are very bad for global warming beca...

Atoms of carbon in the atmosphere are taken up by plants. Cows eat the plants. The cows release the atoms of carbon back into the atmosphere. It is a ...

The following 3 articles show that there is a very positive side to cows. Here are some highlights: - Methane emitted by ruminants like cattle, sheep ...

Thoughts for the day: Reducing biogenic carbon won't reduce atmospheric CO2 in the long-run, because it is a cycle. Concentrating on reducing biogenic...

There IS a planet "B". It is called the Southern Hemisphere :grin:

Have a look at how many locations never even get "warm" (e.g. London, Vancouver, San Francisco, Stockholm, plus many many more)

I have just found the most amazing website which shows "The Weather Year Round Anywhere on Earth" It has incredible temperature maps which show the av...

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Do you realise how many webpages there are on the NOAA website? How can I be expected to know about all of them? I probably only know about less than ...

Why didn't you ask me where I got 216 countries from, rather than accuse me of lying. As well as the 195 countries that you mentioned I also calculate...

You don't seem to understand. The data that I showed people was compiled by scientists/climate scientists. I didn't compile the data. If you are casti...

I have never claimed to be a statistician, but I have done a number of mathematics and statistics courses at university. I am very proficient with Mic...

I have taken 10 seconds and here is my answer. The data that I showed people was presumably compiled by scientists (possibly climate scientists). All ...

I am not arguing. All that I did was show people some data from NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). I didn't say what I thought th...

I have been looking at temperature data for the USA on the internet. There is a lot of interesting information. For those who are open-minded enough t...

Yes, it is almost totally meaningless. And it is totally negligible. Why should I limit my consumption for something that is totally negligible. It al...

Help !!! I am not sure if I have fallen into a universe of recursive sarcasm. I was being sarcastic when I said "It is Big Oil's fault, not mine". Now...