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Ah, you're referring to this as the answer. So, any amount of genuine randomness in the brain would mean that brain has free will then, right?

This is why I clarified that I'm not asking you if you think free will is real or possible. My question is about the definition on offer, not your opi...

the conversation is about the definition of free will that lucky r offered, and you agreed with. Here's round 1 of the definition: "define what Determ...

I thought it would be worth potentially elucidating why the non-local causality of Copenhagen was problematic for Einstein (why he called it spooky ac...

Ah okay, so that original definition, "define what Determinism is and just say, Free Will is not that" is not what we're going with then right? You've...

I'll take it you don't want to answer the question asked for some reason. That's fine, I was just trying to understand the implications of the definit...

if the community of physicists is anything to go by, Copenhagen-type interpretations are certainly valid and worth consideration. I definitely conside...

I'm no expert, take this with a grain of salt, but I do believe you've described Copenhagen to a t. Including the virtualized worlds concept (it may n...

collapse *immediately*?

I agree, you didn't say that. That's not the implication of my question.

but it's also not determinism. So that would seem to create a problem for the definition on offer here, I think.

so, would it be fair to say than that in your view, any biological organism making choices has free will if it's not completely deterministic?

It's an interesting idea, but on the surface I'm not actually sure how it functionally is different from Copenhagen. At the moment one particle gets m...

Ah okay, so any complex neurological system that isn't deterministic is free will, is that the idea?

Many worlds is worth my favour because it provides the clearest account of what happens across the variety of quantum experiments, without resorting t...

Yeah. I'm not religious about it. I'm not certain of it, I don't think people are going to hell for disagreeing with it, I don't think only stupid peo...

You're certainly allowed to think many worlds is nonsense. Many experts in QM agree with you. And many experts in QM also disagree. Many worlds is, as...

The use of many worlds is arguably the same use as quantum mechanics. It's a natural interpretation of quantum mechanics given the mathematics. In fac...

One of you said "True, it is easier to define what Determinism is and just say, Free Will is not that." and the other one of you agreed with it. My co...

I know for a fact that the wealthy (most of them, anyway) wouldn't do even the bare minimum unless they were forced. I've spoken with people who find ...

you brought the tone of the conversation too low with that "shameful" bit. You gotta grow up a little bit man. You shouldn't get so worked up about qm...

That's... fucking exactly what it's like. Thank you. What a beautiful analogy. It would be a shame if something happened to it.

I don't know what any of that means, I'm sorry

sure, despite the misunderstanding I appreciate your participation and hope I run into you again in the future. Wish I could have expressed myself mor...

quantum mechanics certainly RESULTS in human decisions, I'm not disputing that. I'm saying it isn't ABOUT human decisions. Quantum mechanics is mathem...

my previous reply was possibly too short. I meant it as a serious reply but I'm concerned the brevity of it might come across as snark rather than ser...

you're still talking about "decisions", which sounds to me like human decisions. I've indicated that in my view, quantum mechanics is not about human ...

you're of course free to think many worlds is wrong headed, I'm not here to defend many worlds, I'm not qualified to defend many worlds. I was just tr...

Scientific papers are absolutely published for purposes.

and why did he ask for the specific number of votes he'd need to win Georgia?

Well, I applaud your consistency.

Are you allowed to call governors and ask them to find you some votes? Would you defend Bidens right to do that?

Yes, and the standard idea there is that macro level classical behaviours are emergent from micro level quantum behaviours First of all let me say tha...

so every universe that isn't deterministic is a universe of free will? It doesn't even need life or consciousness in it? It's free will even if there'...

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I don't actually care about the "rape" angle at all. I would prefer people to not rape, and I would prefe...

Many philosophers agree with you. Some say a statement like that isn't actually meaningful, it doesn't have any meaningful content, it doesn't refer t...

I'm going to take a minute to just ramble and muse, if that's okay. I've given an explanation of what I think Bells Theorem is about, and in a nutshel...

I actually have the words from Bell himself, this is the opening paragraph of his very own paper on his very own theorem (I'm having trouble getting a...

After I gave my understanding of bells theorem, your initial response was this: And ever since that post, it's been me trying to defend what I've said...

It was never my intention to deliberately misunderstand anything you wrote. The only misunderstanding you've explicitly pointed out so far is that bit...

What's the big deal? Well, some dudes won the Nobel prize in 2022 in large part because of their experiments confirming violation of bells inequality,...

Does the second quote from stanford lend any clarity in that direction for you at all? Bell’s theorem reveals that the entanglement-based correlations...

Sorry to bombard, but here's another quote from the same Stanford article: "Bell’s theorem reveals that the entanglement-based correlations predicted ...

in addition to the above quote from Wikipedia, please see this quote from the Stanford article on bells theorem https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bel...

The Wikipedia page on bells theorem states explicitly - Bell's theorem is a term encompassing a number of closely related results in physics, all of w...

my mistake. Your post said some disagree, and then you brought up many worlds in a way that sounded like you think many worlds is an example of disagr...

no, not about you, I was referring to something that happened on another forum possibly around a year ago.

I don't know why you keep saying this "no reason" stuff. I've never indicated that things happen for no reason

No, this whole line of questioning doesn't even make sense to me. I don't understand why you're even asking it. Quantum indeterminacy doesn't mean eve...

QM will always be indeterminate in the sense I've said above - that even God himself doesn't have a singular answer to a question like "where was this...