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Interesting argument, thanks for making it explicit instead of just alluding to it. I don't think indirect realists necessarily have a model of percep...

Indirect realists don't really make claims about touching balls directly. The claims of indirect realists are about experience and perception. If that...

but you still haven't said why. Why is it incoherent? What makes it incoherent?

you just said indirect realism doesn't hold up. I just want you to explain your own reasoning for saying that

Have you presented an argument about why? An argument that addresses what indirect realists actually say, rather than the thing about bodies touching ...

I don't know what point you think I'm going to make. You've made a distinction, and you've said that the distinction is foolish. I'm pretty confused a...

I don't understand what you're trying to say here If making a distinction is foolish, and you're making a distinction, then are you doing something fo...

You've said you disagree with indirect realism in this thread. It would seem to me that, in order to say that, you'd have to make a distinction, no?

I don't think I have any kinda unique view of what they say. I read what google has to say about it, I read what wikipedia has to say about it, what g...

That's not the claim indirect realists are making. If that's what you're arguing against, you aren't arguing against indirect realism. To be more expl...

This seems like just a massive misunderstanding of what indirect realism claims. Indirect realism is about conscious experience and perception. What d...

So then why are you saying that the quantum field is not an ontological concept? How would you know? It seems like you should just be entirely agnosti...

I'm taking this to mean that in your mind, the field doesn't really exist, but is instead just an artifact of our models. The ontological realness of ...

You replied to a post of mine about the schrodinger equation. It's not hair splitting for me to say that my claim about that particular equation is on...

I don't think there's really any mathematics here at all.

I think you misunderstood my request. Your reply is still talking about qm as a whole, and not the Schrödinger equation in particular. I know many int...

I respect that reply

If I presented this post to most experts in QM, I do not believe that many would agree with it. A small minority might. Your first paragraph, maybe - ...

I believe that he was confusing a statement about the schrodinger equation specifically with a statement about quantum mechanics as a whole, which is ...

That's a long article, care to point out where the physicists in there disagree that the *schrodinger equation* in particular isn't deterministic?

Supervenience isn't an explanation in itself. It's more of a category. It's a way of categorising models, and the MODELS are the things that have the ...

Yeah, I think this is agreeable. I think it would help the clarity of your post if you spelled out what that is. After reading through the various "pr...

The claim that the schrodinger equation is deterministic is independent of the claim that quantum physics itself, as a whole, is deterministic. Every ...

Well, nature very well could BE the laws. If that's the case, it's not that nature is "complying" with those laws, it's that those things we consider ...

I don't think we need to cop out so drastically. Sure, we can't prove something to certainty, but reasonable people can discuss their reasons for beli...

You're right, of course. Reading through this thread as someone who has been deeply fascinated by Emergence over the past couple years has been a ... ...

may I ask you another relativity question? This might be very basic, but I don't know the answer. Imagine you're on a train at a train station, and th...

ah okay, I think we're on the same page for pretty much everything.

that's a very interesting post, but also a bit of a kamikaze move by the non physicalists. In order to demonstrate what you have about physicalism (wh...

In Newtonian physics... I don't know how to do that version of transformation between S and S', but it would seem to me that once you as an observer a...

All same answers as what I got. The slower runner runs a shorter distance and gets there first. The stop watch of the faster runner gets started later...

No problem brother, hope you're enjoying your sunday.

I said "I think it's very unlikely that they would". Do you think I should have said "It's unlikely that they wouldn't"?

He's a compulsive liar. I think it's very unlikely that if he were in office, his Christian nationalist foreign policy handlers would let him do anyth...

Super naive to think republicans wouldn't support Israel if in power. We fund Israel as much as we do because of conservative policies.

the place where his use of these terms differs from everyone else is that he thinks he has to add all sorts of abstractions about judgements, when in ...

It should be all clear now. I asked him for an example where he had evidence but he wasn't sure, he provided that example, and it became very clear th...

Absolute baloney lmao! It's not a straw man at all! In addition it to it being an obviously fair paraphrasing of what you said, especially given the r...

I think your unwillingness to look the very plain-as-day things in the face is what makes the discussion pointless. You said your evidence was that yo...

what does that imply to you?

Based on what?

if you want to use the word evidence in a different way from English speakers, be my guest. For the rest of us, evidence is not synonymous with proof,...

The only way, which is also a complete impossibility. There isn't a chance in the world that Jews want to give up Israel as they know it in exchange f...

The reason I, and every other person who has jumped into this conversation, disagrees with your take, is pretty easy to see. Just google "examples of ...

What? YOU'RE the one who told ME it was evidence. If I'm prejudiced by granting that it's evidence, SURELY you are too, right? YOU told ME it was evid...

To me, it makes perfect sense how I framed it. You have evidence. The evidence you have increases your confidence that John is approaching, but you're...

no worries brother.

Those aren't the two statements I said were compatible. "John is approaching" vs "John is not approaching" - I did not say these two statemnts could b...

Yes, perfect. So, you have information that you rationally interpret as evidence for the statemnt "John is approaching". However, that information you...

The request was for you to come up with and present a specific scenario. You haven't done that. Nothing in your post was a specific scenario. Here's w...